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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

roguenuke said:
She made $1M within the year after the affair became public when someone wrote a biography about her called "Monica's Story". She made another 1/2M+ for doing an interview with Barbara Walters that year. I'd say that is more than she ever would have made in 1999 had she not had that affair with Clinton or had it not become public.

In fact, my estimates were way off with how much she would have made in 20 years (and really its only been 15) with a Masters in Psychology if we base it off of starting pay with generous raises from there and working in the best paying careers for psychologists. She would have made at most $1.5M in that 20 years. Yet she made that in the first year after the affair became public, and has made more since then.
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Because she was under immunity, Lewinsky was not permitted to talk publically about the case until 2002. She did do the interview with Walters but it was limited in scope. She received a good sum for that interview. So what? She also agreed to assist a biography about her life written by Morton which told her side of what happened in the Oval office. After 2002 she did a HBO special. And she hosted a show on Fox for one season.

BUT it was when Bill Clinton released his autobiography My Life in 2004 where in it he blamed Monica for what happened and all the hatred toward her escalated in the press once again making it difficult in her personal life and business life. Nothing like having your pictures pasted all over the tabloids/magazines AGAIN while trying to get on with your life and the damn president lying about what happen to boot! So in 2005 she moved to London. In London she gave an interview calling Clinton a liar and maintained their relationship was a consensual one.

Here is what she stated in the interview.

He could have made it right with the book, but he hasn't. He is a revisionist of history. He has lied. [...] I really didn't expect him to go into detail about our relationship. [...] But if he had and he'd done it honestly, I wouldn't have minded. [...] I did, though, at least expect him to correct the false statements he made when he was trying to protect the Presidency. Instead, he talked about it as though I had laid it all out there for the taking. I was the buffet and he just couldn't resist the dessert. [...] This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through. [...] I don't accept that he had to completely desecrate my character.
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That was the last time she spoke about the incident almost a decade ago. While she was in London is when she earned her masters.

So what she made monetarily those first few years doesn't make up for all the jobs she has applied for and denied because of the stigmatism that follows her. I feel if Clinton would have been honest in his autobiography, she never would have said another word. But now at 40 she is tired of it and is setting the record straight and believes she has a new purpose and that is to start talking about how those in power over us can bully, abuse, and revise history to paint you into anything they want especially using tools like the Internet.

Last year Lewinsky's net worth was $500,000. This can be verified by doing a Google search "Monica Lewinsky's Net-Worth" proving what these people including the president did to her has hindered her in making a living. Ironically some of the same bitches in journalism who laud Bill and Hill Clinton pulled out their sharp knives today to slice and dice Lewinsky one more time over her upcoming article in Vanity Fair.
 
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
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You mean keep quiet like lie to the special prosecutor like Billy Boy wanted her to do but didn't?
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
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O/T = your forum handle makes me laugh every time I see it.
 
ChrisL said:
Yeah, lots of liberals are just jerks.
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As opposed to those sainted conservatives who are always paragons of civility and decency.

Nobody's saying what Bill did was right, but this unwillingness to hold Monica Lewinsky at all responsible for any of her actions is ridiculous. She was an adult.
 
vesper said:
You mean keep quiet like lie to the special prosecutor like Billy Boy wanted her to do but didn't?
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Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?

This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.

Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
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yeah keep quiet about it....like all the other times women have been told to suck it up and shut up. Keep quiet about it or we'll shame you publicly like Hilary did and the way society has been protecting rich and powerful men for centuries.

Again, at 47 and a father of a girl not much younger, responsible for the fate of the free world, the role of the adult was all his, all his. If she as coming on, the right ting to do was say "no" like decent fathers and husbands have been doing for centuries. It the sick bastard couldn't control his base impulses any better than that, do you really want him facing down nuclear war...."be...right....there....ugh...hurry up."
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?

This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.

Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
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Precisely this.

I would also like to comment on the irony of so many conservatives, the people who preach "personal responsibility," completely absolving Monica Lewinsky of any and all culpability for what happened.
 
Fearandloathing said:
like all the other times women have been told to suck it up and shut up"
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NO NO NO.

A guy tells you to suck it and you tell him to f*** off. A guy makes you and you tell all including the police.
A guy offers and you say "Mmm, yes please" then you do what you please with it and you don't talk afterwards.
 
Kobie said:
As opposed to those sainted conservatives who are always paragons of civility and decency.

Nobody's saying what Bill did was right, but this unwillingness to hold Monica Lewinsky at all responsible for any of her actions is ridiculous. She was an adult.
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It's the inconsistency that pisses me off. You think any one of them would hesitate to scream about "personal responsibility" if it was some inner city kid that had broken their code of conduct in some way? Any way?
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Call me old fashioned but if a guy comes on my dress, it's straight to the dry cleaners. She kept that stain for a reason, right?

I say there's equal blame 50/50. They were both consenting adults.

On the one hand he was a scumbag. On the other hand, however young and naïve, she surely knew that blowing off the prezz may have consequences, especially if she chose not to keep quiet about it.
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Regarding the extramarital affair, Lewinsky was not a victim. Victim status came afterward when the democrat party hacks circled the wagons to protect Slick Willy and treated her in much the same manner that they treated all of the other women that became embarrassing to him.
 
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radcen said:
*sigh* Even this breaks down along partisan lines. We're really screwed as a species, aren't we?
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Monica has nothing to do with Hillary, now Bill was a different story. But even with Bill the majority of Americans were on his side and not the Republicans during his impeachment. Those who care about Monica aren't about to vote for Hillary come hell or high water. The rest just don't give a hoot. That was a good 15 years or more ago. The bottom line is Monica was Bill's problem, not Hillary's. She will have no effect at all on 2016 except to give those who would never vote for her another reason not to vote for her.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Honey, I've given blow jobs at work to people I probably shouldn't have done. OK not presidents, nowehere near, but people who could have got into trouble if I so wished it. I made adult choices to have consensual sex at work and I just NEVER told ANYBODY as that seemed the sensible thing to do. Do you really think Clinton's the ONLY person in the White House to have EVER gotten a piece?

This didn't have to get to the special prosecutor. She could have had that dress dry cleaned.

Believe me I am usually the first to defend the woman, and while I do believe Clinton abused his position of power, I don't believe Lewinsky's squeaky clean in all this either. You make your bed, you lie in it........so to speak.
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What? Dry clean the dress, lie to the prosecutor? WTF? This whole incident was discovered through another employee whom Monica ended up working with at the Pentagon. She was older than Monica and Monica confided in her about her encounters with the president. Monica was "in love" with Bill Clinton and I state "in love" as an infatuated school girl. Linda Tripp who she confided in was disturbed over the president's behavior and this young woman all giddy over it. Monica shared with Linda Tripp phone calls Clinton made to Monica and sexual encounters. This older gal was well aware of what the President was doing and she is the one that ratted him out and was one of the women who later met the wrath of Clinton's war room making her life a total Hell over it. So get your facts straight.
 
vesper said:
This month in Vanity Fair, Monica Lewinsky writes about her affair with President Clinton. Hard to believe she is now 40. How time flies when you are having fun. There are excerpts from the article posted online. She delves into the humiliation of it all and addresses at one time contemplating suicide. She was only 19 years of age when the affair began if I recall correctly but makes it very clear the relationship was consensual. My own opinion is that she paid a heavy price for her poor judgment. But at 19 and having a powerful man such as a president coming on to you, well let's just say I have always held Bill Clinton more responsible because of her age. Now Lewinsky says her current goal, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment as she suffered and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”

You can read more here.... Exclusive: Monica Lewinsky Writes About Her Affair with President Clinton | Vanity Fair
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In retrospect, I wish Bill Clinton would have just admitted to the affair, and then he would not have been impeached for perjury. [Although, I will admit, that back then I was happy to see him in trouble.]
 
Perotista said:
Monica has nothing to do with Hillary, now Bill was a different story. But even with Bill the majority of Americans were on his side and not the Republicans during his impeachment. Those who care about Monica aren't about to vote for Hillary come hell or high water. The rest just don't give a hoot. That was a good 15 years or more ago. The bottom line is Monica was Bill's problem, not Hillary's. She will have no effect at all on 2016 except to give those who would never vote for her another reason not to vote for her.
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It's true that Monica will have no effect on the 2016 race. Benghazi will be the 900 lb gorilla on Hillary's back if she runs. Obamacare will also drag her down. She will campaign on fixing is, however it will remind everyone about "Hillarycare".....which she attempted to shove down our throats even without holding public office.
 
Porchev said:
In retrospect, I wish Bill Clinton would have just admitted to the affair, and then he would not have been impeached for perjury. [Although, I will admit, that back then I was happy to see him in trouble.]
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If he had admitted the affair it would have merely been a short term embarrassment rather then a scandal. His crime came when he obstructed justice in an attempt to cover it up. Same with Nixon. The Watergate burglary by itself would not have led to successful impeachment hearings. However hisa attempts to obstruct justice did. At least he had the honor to resign and avoid putting his family and the nation through the impeachment process.
 
vesper said:
I do too Chris. I can't even imagine having to live through that humiliation at the age of 22 and for 17 years that followed. To be made a laughing stock of the butt end of jokes that now a blow job is called a Lewinsky. For crying outloud Clinton was old enough to be her father. And as an intern that is the role any parent would hope a mentor would become. But that didn't stop those in power making her out to be some loony tune and still do.
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I think having both an abortion and blowing the president all in one year qualifies one for being a loony tune.
 
vesper said:
Monica confided in her about her encounters with the president..
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Key point. If she didn't want what followed she should have kept her trap shut.
vesper said:
Monica was "in love" with Bill Clinton and I state "in love" as an infatuated school girl..
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She was still a grown adult. Honey we've all done stupid things for love. When you're over 18 you take the rap for your own actions. At 19, really you KNOW the US president ain't gonna give it all up for you.
vesper said:
So get your facts straight.
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Get YOURS straight sweetpea. Find me the post where I said she should have lied to the prosecutor as you keep repeating like a stuck 45. I said it never needed to have gone that far in the first place.
 
ObamacareFail said:
If he had admitted the affair it would have merely been a short term embarrassment rather then a scandal. His crime came when he obstructed justice in an attempt to cover it up. Same with Nixon. The Watergate burglary by itself would not have led to successful impeachment hearings. However hisa attempts to obstruct justice did. At least he had the honor to resign and avoid putting his family and the nation through the impeachment process.
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No, he resigned because he knew fighting the impeachment was futile, the votes were there. Nixon's resignation was not an act of honor, it was an act of ... well, of resignation. He knew he was cooked.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
Key point. If she didn't want what followed she should have kept her trap shut.She was still a grown adult. Honey we've all done stupid things for love. When you're over 18 you take the rap for your own actions. At 19, really you KNOW the US president ain't gonna give it all up for you. Get YOURS straight sweetpea. Find me the post where I said she should have lied to the prosecutor as you keep repeating like a stuck 45. I said it never needed to have gone that far in the first place.
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WTF????? Seriously? A very young woman who obviously had a need to talk to a more mature woman was not someone equipped to handle such a relationship. I don't know of any 22 year old woman who would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG the president of the U.S. the most powerful man in the world calling you up to set up the next scheduled time where they could perform fellatio on one another this 22 year old is suppose to keep her mouth shut? You know it is people with your kind of attitude that keep women from coming out and speaking up or confiding in others when something isn't quite right or they are being abused and are too stupid to know it. Linda Tripp saw the abuse and ratted the SOB out for it.
 
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