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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
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    Yes, obesity isn't a problem. You just discredit yourself when you put the IF there.

    I don't see any civic minded movement making a difference in terms of obesity that isn't in any way tied to the govt.
    And there's the problem. The federal government was not created to be our nanny. It wasn't granted the power to tell us how much we should weigh, how we should look or what we should feed our children. And no, it's NOT a problem in all communities (obesity). And certainly not a government problem.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And there's the problem. The federal government was not created to be our nanny. It wasn't granted the power to tell us how much we should weigh, how we should look or what we should feed our children. And no, it's NOT a problem in all communities (obesity). And certainly not a government problem.
    Aha. Well the government was created to protect the people from foreign threats, agree?
    Yes, ofc you agree because it's true.

    Well chew on this:


    Obesity Epidemic a Threat to U.S. Military Personnel and National Security

    Susan Blumenthal, M.D.: Obesity: America's Next Great National Security Threat?

    Obesity is a national security risk. Like it or not, the government has to intervene or else it won't be able to defend the people.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Aha. Well the government was created to protect the people from foreign threats, agree?
    Yes, ofc you agree because it's true.

    Well chew on this:


    Obesity Epidemic a Threat to U.S. Military Personnel and National Security

    Susan Blumenthal, M.D.: Obesity: America's Next Great National Security Threat?

    Obesity is a national security risk. Like it or not, the government has to intervene or else it won't be able to defend the people.
    Bull****. Try watching and actually listening to the vid you posted. "Obesity could be an national security threat in the next 20 to thirty years" is what he says. And his screed involves more than just obesity, but smoking, sedentary lifestyle and the like.

    Not to mention, the military has huge problems tuning their entrance metrics. They do NOT check fat percentage but rather use the outdated BMI. A bodybuilder may show up as obese under the BMI.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Lol. You are in hook line sinker with this goverment nanny state bull**** aintcha?
    Instead of just whining why don't you lay out what you think a good school lunch would be.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Bull****. Try watching and actually listening to the vid you posted. "Obesity could be an national security threat in the next 20 to thirty years" is what he says. And his screed involves more than just obesity, but smoking, sedentary lifestyle and the like.

    Not to mention, the military has huge problems tuning their entrance metrics. They do NOT check fat percentage but rather use the outdated BMI. A bodybuilder may show up as obese under the BMI.
    Ah... so you're not seeing it as a problem. You're thinking "we'll deal with it in 20 or 30 years when it becomes a problem"... and when it will be a lot harder to fix. And how will you fix it? Clearly not with the "nanny state" intervening. That would be bad...

    I've yet to see a powerful civic movement that isn't in some way connected to the government do something about it. Especially from the republicans who keep yelling about the nanny state. They are all a bunch of talkers.
    If you don't start fixing this problem now, what chance will there be to fix it later down the line. or are you hoping that it'll fix itself? How will that happen if nothing is changed. The trend will continue. Next year there % of obese kids and adults will grow by a little bit.. then by a little bit more and by a little bit more until what do you know... it's unfixable except through drastic measures and then you'll see a real nanny state. Or, there will be a collapse. People don't think that obesity can bring down a nation... a nation is only as strong as the individuals in it, and if a large % of those individuals are tubs of lards, then the nation is a tub of lard. Very patriotic of you... not giving a damn about the defense of the nation.

    Ok, I agree that BMI is BS but I don't think you can seriously say, with a straight face that those kids who are obese between the ages of 2 and 19 are bodybuilders. They're all children of arnold swarzenegger I'm sure.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ah... so you're not seeing it as a problem. You're thinking "we'll deal with it in 20 or 30 years when it becomes a problem"... and when it will be a lot harder to fix. And how will you fix it? Clearly not with the "nanny state" intervening. That would be bad...

    I've yet to see a powerful civic movement that isn't in some way connected to the government do something about it. Especially from the republicans who keep yelling about the nanny state. They are all a bunch of talkers.
    If you don't start fixing this problem now, what chance will there be to fix it later down the line. or are you hoping that it'll fix itself? How will that happen if nothing is changed. The trend will continue. Next year there % of obese kids and adults will grow by a little bit.. then by a little bit more and by a little bit more until what do you know... it's unfixable except through drastic measures and then you'll see a real nanny state. Or, there will be a collapse. People don't think that obesity can bring down a nation... a nation is only as strong as the individuals in it, and if a large % of those individuals are tubs of lards, then the nation is a tub of lard. Very patriotic of you... not giving a damn about the defense of the nation.

    Ok, I agree that BMI is BS but I don't think you can seriously say, with a straight face that those kids who are obese between the ages of 2 and 19 are bodybuilders. They're all children of arnold swarzenegger I'm sure.

    Sure it's a problem in places, but it's a personal problem, NOT a government one. It's not for government to "fix".

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Instead of just whining why don't you lay out what you think a good school lunch would be.
    Pack my kids (well he does now) lunch. Always have cause feeding my family is my job.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Sure it's a problem in places, but it's a personal problem, NOT a government one. It's not for government to "fix".
    National security is a personal problem?
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    National security is a personal problem?
    Not a national security issue. Once again, the General, IF he is to be believed, said it COULD become a national security issue IN HIS ESTIMATION, TWENTY YEARS from now.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not a national security issue. Once again, the General, IF he is to be believed, said it COULD become a national security issue IN HIS ESTIMATION, TWENTY YEARS from now.
    So we should let our national security be weakened before we do anything?


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