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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Of course the effects of salt are temporary... as the salt is eventually flushed from your system.

    But salt causes the body to retain water...that raises your blood volume and that raises your blood pressure.

    Blood Pressure : Why salt is bad

    Now, if you are fit, it's okay for a short time.

    But if you are obese and already have high blood pressure, that is a real concern as continuous high blood pressure can damage all kinds of parts of your body.
    Plus, of course, they can lead to heart attacks or strokes.

    And considering huge numbers of Americans are obese, eating less salt should be a top priority for them...it is a simple and easy way to reduce the damage to their bodies from high blood pressure and/or reduce their blood pressure.

    Unfortunately, most foods people love are LOADED with sodium.

    Nothing but garbage in that unscientific blog. Fact = when your body has excess sodium it simply eliminates it as waste. You literally piss it out.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    See I don't understand why you've done this AGAIN.

    There are two glaring problems with your views on this subject.

    1) this idea that kids were "forced" to eat anything... No. The schools offered healthier meals, kids could bring their own, nobody had to eat anything they didn't want.

    2) you seem to take such pleasure in the fact that kids are choosing to stick their noses up at healthier options, like this is some kind of victory for freedom... The ironic thing here is that you are so against the supposed "entitlement mentality" but yet what entitles kids to unhealthy food?

    Ultimately whatever subject you can attempt to shove in the right wing narrative of a "far reaching and tyrannical federal government" you will try, no matter how desperate or idiotic it might be... But I warn you that nobody will take you seriously if you continually cry wolf.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Nothing but garbage in that unscientific blog. Fact = when your body has excess sodium it simply eliminates it as waste. You literally piss it out.
    I can tell that you were quite the successful professional nutritionist.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I can tell that you were quite the successful professional nutritionist.
    Yes very much so. In fact one of my clients was a world record breaking athlete.

    WTF do you know about nutrition?

    You compare salt to tobacco for crissakes. That shows your complete ignorance.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    WTF do you know about nutrition?

    You compare salt to tobacco for crissakes. That shows your complete ignorance.
    Not as much as you, Mr ex professional nutritionist.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Since I've said nothing about govt intervening in people's dietary decisions, it's not only a silly question, it's a dishonest one



    I said nothing about the govt controlling anyone's dietary decisions. Please stop being so dishonest
    Okay, so then you agree these decisions are best left to people and not the government. Glad to see we agree.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think she should look at her recipe. If kids are rejecting whole wheat pasta, then they're probably not hungry or have other choices they like better. It isn't rocket science. And it certainly doesn't hurt today's kids to skip a meal.

    WWPasta isn't the only healthy option. In fact, there are plenty of lunch options far healthier than pasta, no matter what kind it is.

    If we started hiring people trained in the food industry to prepare lunches for our children, we'd be much better off. But putting somebody's gramma in the school kitchen is probably a pretty bad idea.
    Another idea I had was--why not let kids have some input on what goes on the menu? When people of any age feel that they have some power over the process, they tend to respect it more. This could be an excellent opportunity for age-appropriate projects in science, health, civics, etc. classes.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Okay, so then you agree these decisions are best left to people and not the government. Glad to see we agree.
    Dietary decisions? Left to people? Yes

    However, that's not the only thing the govt can do in response to the problem of obesity
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Dietary decisions? Left to people? Yes

    However, that's not the only thing the govt can do in response to the problem of obesity
    Okay, so now we're back to what level of involvement the government should have. You haven't answered before, except for your headache analogy.

    What can the government do?
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Not as much as you, .
    Obviously.

    If you are a healthy person there is no good reason to restrict your sodium intake.

    If you suffer from chronic hypertension you may benefit from restricting your sodium intake, but not without cost. A sodium restricted diet lowers blood pressure by making you sick with hyponatremia. What it does is causes an electrolyte imbalance which interferes with the functioning of your cellular sodium-potassium ion pumps. This causes water from the bloodstream to become trapped inside of your cells, especially your neurons, making them swell and lowering blood volume. Thus lowering blood pressure. However, suffering from swollen neurons is not a good thing. It has a negative effect on brain function. But if it's a trade off between being in a mild state of hyponatremia all the time and living 10 more years, I think most would opt for the extra years.

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