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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    you're a false analogy.
    Screw your ad hominem attack.

    You compared salt to cigarettes. Explain your reasoning.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And I agree with what you just said. If Muhammed had said the same thing, I would agree with him.



    And I agree with that too. But that was not what he said.
    Fair nuff. Haven't been following this thread that closely.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    A couple of years ago Scientific American did an article on salt that basically concluded that the risks associated with salt are overstated for most people. I don't remember the details but they went along the lines that salt did increase blood pressure but the effects were temporary in most people.

    There was also something on the news recently about animal fat not being nearly as bad for you as most people assume. Personally I'm not buying that one yet.
    Of course the effects of salt are temporary... as the salt is eventually flushed from your system.

    But salt causes the body to retain water...that raises your blood volume and that raises your blood pressure.

    http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/micro...e/Whysaltisbad

    Now, if you are fit, it's okay for a short time.

    But if you are obese and already have high blood pressure, that is a real concern as continuous high blood pressure can damage all kinds of parts of your body.
    Plus, of course, they can lead to heart attacks or strokes.

    And considering huge numbers of Americans are obese, eating less salt should be a top priority for them...it is a simple and easy way to reduce the damage to their bodies from high blood pressure and/or reduce their blood pressure.

    Unfortunately, most foods people love are LOADED with sodium.


    Btw - one way to counteract that is with potassium. (I believe) 2 parts of potassium can negate one part of sodium.

    http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condit...29_Article.jsp
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    And i've actually worked as a professional nutritionist and changed people's lives for the better.
    Wearing a paper hat saying "you want fries with this?" doesn't count as working as a professional nutritionist.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    1/3 of all children are obese. It is a national security issue.
    First, I don't believe that stat for one minute. Second, even IF true, not a national security issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So after denying that you didn't say that, you're admitting that you did say it.

    Unsurprising
    Post where I denied I said that. Lying about what I posted - unsurprising. You twist and turn about so much when you lose the argument you forget your way back to what was said.

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    There is more than a good indication that it's a threat.
    No, there is not.

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    Public schools are a part of the govt, and it's their job to teach.

    I know that's hard for the "gubmint is evil" crowd
    Public schools are an entity of state and local government. They are NOT part of the federal grant of powers. Even so, the responsibility and grant of power the state and local have here is to EDUCATE. We're talking about school lunches here.

    You nanny needing types seem to have the same disability to recognize the difference between state, local and federal government. And to burst your little feel good bubble some more - I don't hate government, federal, state or local. They all have their purposes. Telling us how to eat is not one of them.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Then, here's what you do. Go stock your freezer full of frozen Hungry Man Salisbury steak and fried chicken meals. And several cases of Bubba burgers and a ton of those Ice cream Sandwiches. Chow down on all of that for a month or two then go pay a visit to your cardiologist. Excessive salt and sugar wears down the human body over a period of time. They can and will **** you up eventually.
    And getting too little of them will kill you just as quickly, perhaps faster.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Then, here's what you do. Go stock your freezer full of frozen Hungry Man Salisbury steak and fried chicken meals. And several cases of Bubba burgers and a ton of those Ice cream Sandwiches. Chow down on all of that for a month or two then go pay a visit to your cardiologist. Excessive salt and sugar wears down the human body over a period of time. They can and will **** you up eventually.
    Since I cook almost all my own food from scratch that's not likely to happen.

    I season everything I cook with salt - which most good cooks will tell you is a necessity. My resting BP, which I monitor pretty closely btw, averages 111/74.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    A couple of years ago Scientific American did an article on salt that basically concluded that the risks associated with salt are overstated for most people. I don't remember the details but they went along the lines that salt did increase blood pressure but the effects were temporary in most people.
    And exercise also increases you blood pressure temporarily. That is not bad for your health. Chronic hypertension is bad for your health. And that is not caused by too much dietary salt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    There was also something on the news recently about animal fat not being nearly as bad for you as most people assume. Personally I'm not buying that one yet.
    Actually, animal fat is chock full of nutrients and has been shown to improve your lipid profile.

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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Then, here's what you do. Go stock your freezer full of frozen Hungry Man Salisbury steak and fried chicken meals. And several cases of Bubba burgers and a ton of those Ice cream Sandwiches. Chow down on all of that for a month or two then go pay a visit to your cardiologist. Excessive salt and sugar wears down the human body over a period of time. They can and will **** you up eventually.
    The fact that long-term over-consumption of salt, fat and sugar can be unhealthy doesn't mean that the risks are not overstated by many people.
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    Re: Schools seek changes to healthier lunch rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Fair nuff. Haven't been following this thread that closely.
    Basically, from what I've seen, Muhammed likes to throw out simplistic, unqualified statements about nutrition like "Fat is healthy" or "Salt doesn't cause any health problems". I don't know if he knows better and is just being trollish, or if he actually believes these things. I suspect the former because he does know a lot about nutrition.
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