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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Drugs and terror (terrorism) are not things one can wage war upon. Not successfully anyway. These are conflicts that cannot be won.

    The war on drugs cannot possibly be won because people like drugs. The American people, and people the world over, want to do drugs. Drugs are cheaper and easier to get than they were before we started throwing people in jail for having them. Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and doesn't work with anything else. And then there is the horrific racial component, as the war on drugs is used to lock up and strip rights from young black men, and not to lock up or strip rights away from whites. It is little more than a war on the poor.

    The war on terror cannot possibly be won because it is s tactic. Terrorism is the tactic of the desperate powerless against the powerful. It has been going on for thousands of years. They fought terrorists in Rome, in the Old Kingdom in Egypt, in ancient China, in African civilizations that we have no writings from, in the Aztec empire before they ever encountered Europeans... You cannot defeat a tactic. So long as people without power are oppressed by those with power, they will seek to strike back. You cannot fight a war against desperate and powerless people. You will only make them more desperate.

    The American people are sick of the wars on drugs and terror because these are not things one can wage war against. The problems that drove us to fight them cannot be solved with violence.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh, we are tired of the War on Terror? That's nice. Apparently wars aren't won or lost anymore, one side just gets bored and wanders off.

    I'm so glad we have these options. Apparently we can just agree to call it all a draw, and all of us go home. Hooray.
    It seems that getting bored and wandering off is a likely outcome when wars are brought under fraud, wars of choice.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    I don't think intervening in Muslim on Muslim wars fights terrorism. I think that telling each side that the other side said that they are apostates and giving them more bullets fights terrorism.

    It's sad but true, if we want to be safe from evil people, lots and lots of them have to die. That's how it works.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I don't think intervening in Muslim on Muslim wars fights terrorism. I think that telling each side that the other side said that they are apostates and giving them more bullets fights terrorism.

    It's sad but true, if we want to be safe from evil people, lots and lots of them have to die. That's how it works.
    Considering the dark side of the human condition, how do we define just exactly who the 'evil people' are?

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if this was a real "war on terror" we would be going after the terrorist group Boko Haram in nigeria.

    BBC News - Boko Haram 'to sell' Nigeria girls abducted from Chibok
    Give it some time.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Considering the dark side of the human condition, how do we define just exactly who the 'evil people' are?
    Actually as a Christian, I'm not allowed to make that judgment. I ought to have said, "those who would do us evil." That's a much lower bar for judgment.

    I stand corrected.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Actually as A Christian, I'm not allowed to make that judgment. "I ought to have said, those who would do us evil." That's a much lower bar for judgment.

    I stand corrected.
    I agree. Therefore I offer a higher bar for judgment--those who have actually done us evil.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Wheee. "The war on terror is dying down". Except it's not. We decided to half-ass it, and so now it's a bigger problem.
    Have you ever stopped to think that maybe WE were the terrorists? After all, we were infiltrating countries, overthrowing governments, and bombing the heck out of people long before 9/11. And we've continued to do it long after 9/11 and long after bin Laden was killed. Heck, in just the last 10 years, we've overthrown or helped take down the governments in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, as well as working to do the same in several other countries. We've bombed/conducted armed assaults against "terrorists" in countries without their permisssion, have killed numerous innocents in these bombings and we STILL won't leave.

    Maybe, as the United States pulls out of these different Middle Eastern countries, we really are shrinking the war on terror...

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I agree. Therefore I offer a higher bar for judgment--those who have actually done us evil.
    I support permeative war. Once an aggressor country's government or other large organization announces its intent and has the means and begins to mobilize for war, I feel that their enemy is justified in acting in a lethal manner.

    It sounds fine for leaders to announce that they will wait for the other side to strike. but what they are saying is that their posturing is worth more than the lives of their people who will die.

    By the way, "peace" is a very, very overrated word. we have a wonderful peace with the Canadians. But the grave is also peaceful. Hopeless defeat, subjugation and slavery are peaceful. Oblivion is peaceful. Mindlessness is peaceful. Carthage has been at peace for about two thousand years, since the Romans obliterated it and its people. We need better words.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Obama's anti-military views and actions are like salt on a wound.
    Obama...Obama anti-military?

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