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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    When was that?

    I was born in '47, and between Korea, RVN, Bosnia, Grenada, Panama and a few other 'police actions', I cannot remember a time we weren't at war.
    https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R42738.pdf

    BTW - I did not know you were born in 1947. Man, you've seen a lot of changes in the U.S. and around the world.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Polls: Americans Are Sick of the War On Terror, War On Drugs

    The American people are now overwhelminglyopposed to more war in Ukraine, Syria, Iran and elsewhere.
    A new Wall Street Journal/NBC poll shows:
    Americans in large numbers want the U.S. to reduce its role in world affairs even as a showdown with Russia over Ukraine preoccupies Washington ….
    In a marked change from past decades, nearly half of those surveyed want the U.S. to be less active on the global stage, with fewer than one-fifth calling for more active engagement—an anti-interventionist current that sweeps across party lines.
    A Pew poll from December found a majority of Americans – more than ever before in Pew’s 50-year history of polling this question – think the U.S. “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along as best they can on their own.”
    A Pew/USA Today poll conducted over the weekend found that Americans oppose – by a 2-1 margin – any U.S. military aid to Ukraine.
    A YouGov poll conducted last month found that only 14 percent of Americans said the U.S. has “any responsibility” to get involved in Ukraine, and only 18 percent think the U.S. “has any responsibility to protect Ukraine if Russia were to invade.”
    Huffington Post reports:
    Americans are more likely than not to say that the United States has no responsibility to get involved in Ukraine even under extreme circumstances, the new survey shows ….
    Pluralities of Democrats, Republicans and independents agreed that the U.S. does not have a responsibility to protect Ukraine.
    Support for a war against Syria is less than one-sixth the approval level Americans had for the Iraq war in 2003 (Americans would rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria).
    A USA Today/Pew Poll from January shows that Americans now believe by a 50%-38% margin that war against Iraq was stupid.

    Do you think focusing on domestic issues like the economy is more important?
    Americans might feel differently if they just fought the war, won, and then left, while repeating as necessary. The wars, since the Korean War, have always become political and divides the country. Get in and out and the protesters won't even have time to paint their signs.

    The problems begin when foreigners try to change the character and culture of another country, particularly when its third world.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Americans might feel differently if they just fought the war, won, and then left, while repeating as necessary. The wars, since the Korean War, have always become political and divides the country. Get in and out and the protesters won't even have time to paint their signs.

    The problems begin when foreigners try to change the character and culture of another country, particularly when its third world.
    To address the part of your post about foreigners, that is the doing of the government. Have you heard about the dream act of the 1960's which encouraged immigration? Or is that Obamas fault too?

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Polls: Americans Are Sick of the War On Terror, War On Drugs

    The American people are now overwhelminglyopposed to more war in Ukraine, Syria, Iran and elsewhere.
    A new Wall Street Journal/NBC poll shows:
    Americans in large numbers want the U.S. to reduce its role in world affairs even as a showdown with Russia over Ukraine preoccupies Washington ….
    In a marked change from past decades, nearly half of those surveyed want the U.S. to be less active on the global stage, with fewer than one-fifth calling for more active engagement—an anti-interventionist current that sweeps across party lines.
    A Pew poll from December found a majority of Americans – more than ever before in Pew’s 50-year history of polling this question – think the U.S. “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along as best they can on their own.”
    A Pew/USA Today poll conducted over the weekend found that Americans oppose – by a 2-1 margin – any U.S. military aid to Ukraine.
    A YouGov poll conducted last month found that only 14 percent of Americans said the U.S. has “any responsibility” to get involved in Ukraine, and only 18 percent think the U.S. “has any responsibility to protect Ukraine if Russia were to invade.”
    Huffington Post reports:
    Americans are more likely than not to say that the United States has no responsibility to get involved in Ukraine even under extreme circumstances, the new survey shows ….
    Pluralities of Democrats, Republicans and independents agreed that the U.S. does not have a responsibility to protect Ukraine.
    Support for a war against Syria is less than one-sixth the approval level Americans had for the Iraq war in 2003 (Americans would rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria).
    A USA Today/Pew Poll from January shows that Americans now believe by a 50%-38% margin that war against Iraq was stupid.

    Do you think focusing on domestic issues like the economy is more important?
    Why? Because these things just waste crap tons of money, get our kids killed, feed the corporate machine of America, seek to limit our liberties, inspire untold laws and government intervention against our freedom, encourage the government to act outside the bounds of the Constitutions, etc?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Oh, we are tired of the War on Terror? That's nice. Apparently wars aren't won or lost anymore, one side just gets bored and wanders off.

    I'm so glad we have these options. Apparently we can just agree to call it all a draw, and all of us go home. Hooray.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh, we are tired of the War on Terror? That's nice. Apparently wars aren't won or lost anymore, one side just gets bored and wanders off.

    I'm so glad we have these options. Apparently we can just agree to call it all a draw, and all of us go home. Hooray.
    I think we can agree that the concept of openly declaring a war on it, and leaving it with an undetermined end tends to harm its sustainability or popularity. I think the sort of action via Afghanistan or Iraq will need to take a backstep, but the War on Terrorism will go on, perhaps in almost all but name.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think we can agree that the concept of openly declaring a war on it, and leaving it with an undetermined end tends to harm its sustainability or popularity. I think the sort of action via Afghanistan or Iraq will need to take a backstep, but the War on Terrorism will go on, perhaps in almost all but name.
    ....what do you think the effect is going to be on a generation of young Jihadists across the Ummah when Mullah Omar and Zawahiri declare victory from Kabul after the American withdrawal?

    The War on Terror is expanding, not shrinking.

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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ....what do you think the effect is going to be on a generation of young Jihadists across the Ummah when Mullah Omar and Zawahiri declare victory from Kabul after the American withdrawal?

    The War on Terror is expanding, not shrinking.
    I'm stating that it is the sort of action taken by the United States that grows tiring to the public, even though they largely clamored for it in the first place. I think we should continue to be vigilant about it, because it won't go away, but I also do not think we can stomach much in the way of invasion forces.
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    Re: Polls-Americans are sick of the war on terror

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm stating that it is the sort of action taken by the United States that grows tiring to the public, even though they largely clamored for it in the first place. I think we should continue to be vigilant about it, because it won't go away, but I also do not think we can stomach much in the way of invasion forces.
    Oh. We are going to continue to be vigilant. That's nice. Is that sort of like our red lines for Syria and "Serious Consequences" for Russia?

    "Hey AQ/TB SL, we may have handed you the historic victory of a generation that is going to make you heroes and help you light a region on fire, but while you're doing it we're gonna be... well, we will be watching.... vigilantly...."

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