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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

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    And prices on everything would go through the roof. There would no longer be the China option when purchasing products.
    Seems rather likely.

    If you imagine the economy as being a balloon, and you poke this balloon with a $15 min wage finger, it's going to bulge out someplace else, unpredictably, probably not in a way that you'll want or like very much.
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

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    And prices on everything would go through the roof. There would no longer be the China option when purchasing products.
    and WAGES will go up too, resulting in people affording to support others livliehoods. when we had trade protection and a 60% unionized workforce in the 50s and 60s we saw a huge era of prosperity. the "trickle down economics" have succeeded in making the rich richer and richer with a shrinking middle class. before long we'll be living in a banana republic at this rate (and for the younger readers, banana republic in this context is not a store at the shopping mall)

    and before you use the "class envy" and "class warfare" line, I don't care how you look at it, an increase of 800% in compensation of top business executives while businesses are slashing wages, either by direct cuts or by not increasing wages with inflation, and stripping benefits is not just, fair, or ethical under any circumstance.
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

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    and WAGES will go up too, resulting in people affording to support others livliehoods. when we had trade protection and a 60% unionized workforce in the 50s and 60s we saw a huge era of prosperity. the "trickle down economics" have succeeded in making the rich richer and richer with a shrinking middle class. before long we'll be living in a banana republic at this rate (and for the younger readers, banana republic in this context is not a store at the shopping mall)

    and before you use the "class envy" and "class warfare" line, I don't care how you look at it, an increase of 800% in compensation of top business executives while businesses are slashing wages, either by direct cuts or by not increasing wages with inflation, and stripping benefits is not just, fair, or ethical under any circumstance.
    What is being proposed will actually make wages exceed current inflation - a basic guarantee of future inflation. Rinse and repeat.
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    and WAGES will go up too, resulting in people affording to support others livliehoods. when we had trade protection and a 60% unionized workforce in the 50s and 60s we saw a huge era of prosperity. the "trickle down economics" have succeeded in making the rich richer and richer with a shrinking middle class. before long we'll be living in a banana republic at this rate (and for the younger readers, banana republic in this context is not a store at the shopping mall)
    Prices will go up, because wages go up. Not the other way around.

    and before you use the "class envy" and "class warfare" line, I don't care how you look at it, an increase of 800% in compensation of top business executives while businesses are slashing wages, either by direct cuts or by not increasing wages with inflation, and stripping benefits is not just, fair, or ethical under any circumstance.
    Stop with the class envy! Stop waging class warfare!

    I didn't have to bring it up. You did it for me. Ya see, it's as simple as this: Libbos don't give a rat's ass about the people. They only care about taking revenge on those people they hate. It never has anything to with the welfare of the country, or the people. If those big money CEO's were being compensated at a level that you agree with, you probably would be ok with the working class working for free.
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prices will go up, because wages go up. Not the other way around.



    Stop with the class envy! Stop waging class warfare!

    I didn't have to bring it up. You did it for me. Ya see, it's as simple as this: Libbos don't give a rat's ass about the people. They only care about taking revenge on those people they hate. It never has anything to with the welfare of the country, or the people. If those big money CEO's were being compensated at a level that you agree with, you probably would be ok with the working class working for free.
    What is never seen, although it is right before us and in plain sight, is that the added taxation of those providing goods/services is simply seen as another cost of sales and is then passed on to the consumer. That is the most regressive form of taxation imaginable.
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prices will go up, because wages go up. Not the other way around.



    Stop with the class envy! Stop waging class warfare!

    I didn't have to bring it up. You did it for me. Ya see, it's as simple as this: Libbos don't give a rat's ass about the people. They only care about taking revenge on those people they hate. It never has anything to with the welfare of the country, or the people. If those big money CEO's were being compensated at a level that you agree with, you probably would be ok with the working class working for free.
    Not true, and wage increases will not cause huge increases in price, in most industries labor is a small percentage of the total cost of producing a product. If labor is 10% of the cost of a 1 dollar burger for instance, the doubling the burger flippers wages will make the burger cost one dime extra. The mantra of "higher wages higher prices" may be technically true, but when you get into the details, price increases will not be dramatic
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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Not true, and wage increases will not cause huge increases in price, in most industries labor is a small percentage of the total cost of producing a product. If labor is 10% of the cost of a 1 dollar burger for instance, the doubling the burger flippers wages will make the burger cost one dime extra. The mantra of "higher wages higher prices" may be technically true, but when you get into the details, price increases will not be dramatic
    That ignores the indirect labor costs incurred for each ingredient used to make that burger, the transportation of those ingredients to the store, the cost of utilities and the cost of physical plant support (e.g. store/equipment repair) services. That means that burger price will likely go up three times as much. A burger cost going up 3 dimes may make more folks bag their lunch and eat dinner in more often. Since this is only in Seattle, WA they may decide to shop more out of the city limits too.
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    Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    ...in most industries labor is a small percentage of the total cost of producing a product.
    Say what???

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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Not true, and wage increases will not cause huge increases in price, in most industries labor is a small percentage of the total cost of producing a product. If labor is 10% of the cost of a 1 dollar burger for instance, the doubling the burger flippers wages will make the burger cost one dime extra. The mantra of "higher wages higher prices" may be technically true, but when you get into the details, price increases will not be dramatic
    That's completely wrong.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seattle mayor unveils plan for $15 minimum wage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What is never seen, although it is right before us and in plain sight, is that the added taxation of those providing goods/services is simply seen as another cost of sales and is then passed on to the consumer. That is the most regressive form of taxation imaginable.
    What's sad, is the notion that ALL taxes are passed onto the consumer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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