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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think there's only one reason that anyone defends Bundy.
    ...and we all know what that is ...

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yeah? Whats that reason?
    They want to show solidarity among racists, like Truthers sticking up for each other no matter how ridiculous it becomes.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You're right...I just wasn't paying attention.

    I have another question.....don't BLM employees have a right to protect themselves? After all, they are getting threatened.....


    FEDERAL WORKERS: With death threats, Nev. conflict highlights dangerous side of public land management -- Thursday, April 17, 2014 -- www.eenews.net
    Yes I fully believe that they have a right to defend themselves. But there is a big difference between defending oneself and going in with guns drawn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The BLM webpage says they have "specific law enforcement responsibilities".....

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    Doesn't mean that they should have that. No agency should have that ability if they make regulations unless it is the legislature of a state or the country. Too much conflict of interest. Such enforcements personnel should be seperate as it can create bias.
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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They want to show solidarity among racists, like Truthers sticking up for each other no matter how ridiculous it becomes.
    So in your minds eye someone cannot possibly support someone that is racist when the thing being supported has absolutely nothing to do with race or racism? The person that is defending the action that is unrelated to race or racism MUST be racist also? That is quite the narrow view imo. And most defintely flies in the face of reality.
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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So in your minds eye someone cannot possibly support someone that is racist when the thing being supported has absolutely nothing to do with race or racism? The person that is defending the action that is unrelated to race or racism MUST be racist also? That is quite the narrow view imo. And most defintely flies in the face of reality.
    I think the guy is completely full of crap. It's been proven that he lied about his family history. It's been proven he is a racist piece of crap. He's a mooch, a thief and a delusional idiot.

    There's one reason to support the scumbag: to show solidarity among racists. It's the same as Truthers sticking up for each other.

    The good thing is it shows us who the racists are.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This isn't coming from the State Legislature but from someone that has a seat in the House of Representitives. Other wise known as the Senate. IE this bill is going through the federal legislative branch. Not state. And they definitely can disarm federal agencies.
    I didn't know the House of Representatives was otherwise known as the Senate. Expect DEMs to do the same to this waste of paper as the GOPs did to minimum wage today .
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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This isn't about race. Lets keep race out of it. And whether Bundy is a racist or not is also irrelevent to him refusing to pay the fines and him and the militia standing up to federal agents.. I used Rosa Parks as an example of civil disobediance because most people agree that her civil disobediance was justified. And I know exactly what she was doing. Which is why I used her. The fact that she was fighting against state laws is irrelevent. It doesn't matter whether its a state law or a federal law, justifiied civil disobediance can be used against both.

    Now, care to address the actual content of my post instead of going off on a fit because I compared Rosa Parks's civil disobediance to Bundy's civil disobediance?
    You brought up Rosa Parks and makes your post about racism in America.
    There is no way you picked the Parks case by accident. You thought you were going to play this tricky little race card from up your sleeve.
    The irony is that In the Parks case where she defied unconstitutional STATE laws, the FEDS prevailed ... and that illustrates how stupidly anti American this argument for Bundy really is.
    How is it that the solution the republicons always offer is to take money away from the poor to solve their problems and give money to the wealthy to solve theirs?
    BLM doesn't help cattle ranchers??
    Do you understand that the BLM charges about 10% for grazing fees on the land they manage when compared to private land owners ...And the cheap bastard refuses to pay THAT?
    He wants FREE grazing so he can accrue his millions in profit faster ... and you support that?
    WTF are you thinking?

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So in your minds eye someone cannot possibly support someone that is racist when the thing being supported has absolutely nothing to do with race or racism? The person that is defending the action that is unrelated to race or racism MUST be racist also? That is quite the narrow view imo. And most defintely flies in the face of reality.
    Flying in the face of reality is trying to use the 10th amendment every time you have a problem with the federal gov't. Using the 10th amendment has become another dog whistle for racism, as we see with voting rights, civil rights and RW social engineering .
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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    You brought up Rosa Parks and makes your post about racism in America.
    There is no way you picked the Parks case by accident. You thought you were going to play this tricky little race card from up your sleeve.
    I'll give you one guess as to why people inexplicably supporting a racist would compare him to Rosa.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think the guy is completely full of crap. It's been proven that he lied about his family history. It's been proven he is a racist piece of crap. He's a mooch, a thief and a delusional idiot.

    There's one reason to support the scumbag: to show solidarity among racists. It's the same as Truthers sticking up for each other.

    The good thing is it shows us who the racists are.
    I was not aware that he lied about his family. Could you provide me a link to that?

    And seriously, stop making everything about racism. I don't care if he is a racist or not. It's a non-issue to me and always has been. All that it does is make your posts not worthy of even being read much less responded to.
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