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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I just love it when they try to play that card against me, a brown skinned person, "showing solidarity with other white racists"

    The race card, the last refuge of the lowest common denominator.
    Actually, I think the quote is, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson


    lol

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Personally I think that since Bundy's family has been in that area for well over a century they should not have to ask for permission to use land that they had been using long before the BLM was even a twinkle in Big Daddies pants. Its called grandfathering and it should apply to the Bundy family for as long as the Bundy's live there.
    Despite Bundy's mystical claims to the contrary, his family appears to have been there only since 1948.

    That aside, historical can be a source of privelages, but not rights. Bundy has no fundamental right to public land that is not his. His privelage to have access to that land, however, should be grandfathered - if and only if he pays the fees.

    Since Bundy is not willing to do that (creatively either refuses to pay, or sends the check to people that he know cant accept it), I have zero sympathy for him. It does not matter how long his ancestors have or have not ranched there.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    How about disarming the militias that are harboring and protecting a criminal on his ranch and keeping federal law enforcement from executing a court order against him.
    WTF?? Armed insurrection good, federal law enforcement bad?
    The anarchists are gaining a foothold with the republicons.
    A dead beat who refuses to pay his bill and the wackos who are defending that deadbeat is not the issue of this thread.What is the issue is whether or not certain agencies should be equipped with military weapons or military like weapons.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    I didn't realize supposed "racist" comments had anything to do with his plight with the BLM. Interesting.
    He got tagged a racist, its all fair now.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A dead beat who refuses to pay his bill and the wackos who are defending that deadbeat is not the issue of this thread.What is the issue is whether or not certain agencies should be equipped with military weapons or military like weapons.
    The alphabet agencies can arm up all they want, till they turn on us. Then its on.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think the guy is completely full of crap. It's been proven that he lied about his family history. It's been proven he is a racist piece of crap. He's a mooch, a thief and a delusional idiot.

    There's one reason to support the scumbag: to show solidarity among racists. It's the same as Truthers sticking up for each other.

    The good thing is it shows us who the racists are.
    I think they are just jumping on the goberment is e-vile bandwagon, it has nothing to do with racism. Its like when libs would jump on ever Bush is e-vile band wagon and made bogus claims of lying for war, starting 9-11, being a dictator, went awol,stealing elections and numerous other things that were not true. People let their beliefs blind them and they can't see or ignore the truth.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Hopefully this law maker is successful.

    Bundy aftermath: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says 'They're not paramilitary units' - Washington Times
    Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah, concerned about the armed agents that surrounded Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s property, is mulling a measure to cut funding for any “paramilitary units” that work for the Bureau of Land Management, the Internal Revenue Service and other federal regulatory agencies.
    “There are lots of people who are really concerned when the BLM shows up with its own SWAT team,” he said, the Salt Lake Tribune reported. “They’re regulatory agencies. They’re not paramilitary units, and I think that concerns a lot of us.”

    His mulled amendment to an appropriations bill comes in context of recent BLM actions against Mr. Bundy: The federal agents armed themselves and surrounded his property, tasered his son, closed down road access to the ranch and even shot a couple of his prize bulls. The reasons? Mr. Bundy hadn’t paid his grazing fees to the federal government, but rather fought the matter in court.
    If a public school district or a public transit authority or a Hospital district can have policing authority...why not a federal agency?


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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    If a public school district or a public transit authority or a Hospital district can have policing authority...why not a federal agency?
    I think most would argue that a public school district and transit authority should have it's own policing authority but instead should rely on local law enforcement.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think they are just jumping on the goberment is e-vile bandwagon, it has nothing to do with racism. Its like when libs would jump on ever Bush is e-vile band wagon and made bogus claims of lying for war, starting 9-11, being a dictator, went awol,stealing elections and numerous other things that were not true. People let their beliefs blind them and they can't see or ignore the truth.
    As I said, racism and/or ignorance.

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    Re: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think most would argue that a public school district and transit authority should have it's own policing authority but instead should rely on local law enforcement.
    I hear the contrary from persons that advocate conceal/open carry...that the police can not be everywhere.

    Many call for armed gaurds or arming teachers and staff at schools...so how is a school district police force wrong?


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