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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    They may have, but that's hardly a major sin. We should all expect that the WH is involved in those. It really shouldn't be a question, should it?
    Then why the lie...right before the election?
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Prove it.
    I don't need to. Damn near everyone, their brother, and their cousin, has testified that the white house knew the real story.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Bush's fault.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    Then why the lie...right before the election?
    Not sure it was an outright lie. But it was corrected long before the election. We've all seen the timeline. So, it wasn't effective if that was the purpose. But, all this is shows is a normal WH spin action and nothing earth shattering.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure it was an outright lie. But it was corrected long before the election. We've all seen the timeline. So, it wasn't effective if that was the purpose. But, all this is shows is a normal WH spin action and nothing earth shattering.
    No, it was an outright lie, several lies in fact, all of which have been proven to be lies.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    Here is what Amb. Susan Rice said on ABC's This Week:

    RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it's important to know that there's an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.

    But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous -- not a premeditated -- response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

    We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to -- or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in -- in the wake of the revolution in Libya are -- are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

    'This Week' Transcript: U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice - ABC News

    Where is the lie?
    Here is what All of Team O had to say on Sept 12. 2012......There is no getting around what they told the MS Media.


    Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’
    Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She called it a “violent attack.”
    Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

    Sept. 12: After his Rose Garden speech, Obama tapes an interview for “60 Minutes.” Obama says he didn’t use the word “terrorism” in his Rose Garden speech because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Steve Kroft, the show’s host, wonders how the attack could be described as a “mob action” since the attackers were “very heavily armed.” Obama says “we’re still investigating,” but he suspects “folks involved in this . . . were looking to target Americans from the start.”

    Sept. 12: Senior administration officials, who did not permit use of their names, hold a briefing with reporters to answer questions about the attack. Twice officials characterize those involved in the attack as “extremists.” In one case, an official identified only as “senior administration official one” is asked by Fox News reporter Justin Fishel if the administration had ruled out the possibly that the attack was in response to the anti-Muslim video. The official says, “We just don’t know.”

    Sept. 12, 4:09 p.m.: At a press briefing en route to Las Vegas, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is asked, “Does the White House believe that the attack in Benghazi was planned and premeditated?” He responds, “It’s too early for us to make that judgment. I think — I know that this is being investigated, and we’re working with the Libyan government to investigate the incident. So I would not want to speculate on that at this time.”

    Sept. 12: Libya’s deputy ambassador to London, Ahmad Jibril, tells the BBC that Ansar al-Sharia was behind the attack. The little-known militant group issues a statement that says it “didn’t participate as a sole entity,” neither confirming nor denying the report.

    Sept. 12, 6:06 p.m.: Beth Jones, the acting assistant secretary of state for the Near East, sends an email to top State Department officials that reads in part: “[T]he group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic extremists.” (An excerpt of Jones’ email was read by Rep. Trey Gowdy at the May 8, 2013, House oversight hearing.)

    Sept. 12: Citing unnamed “U.S. government officials,” Reuters reports that “the Benghazi attack may have been planned in advance” and that members of Ansar al-Sharia “may have been involved.” Reuters quotes one of the U.S. officials as saying: “It bears the hallmarks of an organized attack.”.....snip~

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    From the other thread. Do you think Susan Rice can get around Panetta's statement on the 14th?

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here is what All of Team O had to say on Sept 12. 2012......There is no getting around what they told the MS Media.


    Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’
    Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She called it a “violent attack.”
    Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

    Sept. 12: After his Rose Garden speech, Obama tapes an interview for “60 Minutes.” Obama says he didn’t use the word “terrorism” in his Rose Garden speech because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Steve Kroft, the show’s host, wonders how the attack could be described as a “mob action” since the attackers were “very heavily armed.” Obama says “we’re still investigating,” but he suspects “folks involved in this . . . were looking to target Americans from the start.”
    Later, during a debate with Mitt Romeny, and after the infamous Rice sunday shows, he claimed to have called it a terrorist attack in the Rose Garden despite having told 60 minutes (in an interview that had yet to be aired) that he didn't know. Lies, Lies about lies, and lying about lying.

    Sept. 12: Senior administration officials, who did not permit use of their names, hold a briefing with reporters to answer questions about the attack. Twice officials characterize those involved in the attack as “extremists.” In one case, an official identified only as “senior administration official one” is asked by Fox News reporter Justin Fishel if the administration had ruled out the possibly that the attack was in response to the anti-Muslim video. The official says, “We just don’t know.”

    Sept. 12, 4:09 p.m.: At a press briefing en route to Las Vegas, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney is asked, “Does the White House believe that the attack in Benghazi was planned and premeditated?” He responds, “It’s too early for us to make that judgment. I think — I know that this is being investigated, and we’re working with the Libyan government to investigate the incident. So I would not want to speculate on that at this time.”

    Sept. 12: Libya’s deputy ambassador to London, Ahmad Jibril, tells the BBC that Ansar al-Sharia was behind the attack. The little-known militant group issues a statement that says it “didn’t participate as a sole entity,” neither confirming nor denying the report.

    Sept. 12, 6:06 p.m.: Beth Jones, the acting assistant secretary of state for the Near East, sends an email to top State Department officials that reads in part: “[T]he group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic extremists.” (An excerpt of Jones’ email was read by Rep. Trey Gowdy at the May 8, 2013, House oversight hearing.)

    Sept. 12: Citing unnamed “U.S. government officials,” Reuters reports that “the Benghazi attack may have been planned in advance” and that members of Ansar al-Sharia “may have been involved.” Reuters quotes one of the U.S. officials as saying: “It bears the hallmarks of an organized attack.”.....snip~
    And then on the 16th, Susan Rice claims it was a spontaneous protest hijacked by extremists.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure it was an outright lie. But it was corrected long before the election. We've all seen the timeline. So, it wasn't effective if that was the purpose. But, all this is shows is a normal WH spin action and nothing earth shattering.
    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, it was an outright lie, several lies in fact, all of which have been proven to be lies.
    It was exactly the same error that got the GWB crowd in trouble over Iraqi WMD: the BHO WH selectively focused on only the info stream that was congenial to their policy preference.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It was exactly the same error that got the GWB crowd in trouble over Iraqi WMD: the BHO WH selectively focused on only the info stream that was congenial to their policy preference.
    The difference being that with GWB it was actually the information they had, rather than something else entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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