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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    To date, the only thing that this investigation has revealed in terms of "wrongdoing" is that the Obama administration clearly lied about the motive for the attack. The obvious reason for that lie is because they were in the midst of a campaign and wanted to protect certain narratives but the reason doesn't really matter. They altered the talking points and this is now established fact.

    So then... what should be the penalty for this offense? Is it even criminal?

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Too much deflection to discuss... let's let's try... I NEVER said the weapons were in the Consulate- you are making crap up. I said the Consulate held the tac center, dso building and militia hq, not just the Ambassador's residence. The ambassador was there to meet a Turkish liaison on the weapons operation, he traveled without a security team because he didn't want one- his fatal mistake. The CIA 'rescue' team missed Ambassador Stevens- it was Libyans who rescued him, took him to a hospital.

    Immediately after the mortars hit the roof of the annex, killing two men, and wounding several others- a Predator drone spotted a 'large mass of men' and the evac was on...

    I'd love a link backing the need to have the Consulate in Benghazi because that is where Ghadaffi started... please include where it was the State dept who wanted that... that just seems so odd State wanted it but never manned it. It seems like putting a target in the middle of badguy country, not guarding it but the ambassador going in naked on a random visit and a two pronged very effective attack just happens to hit that night.

    It was the CIA op that drew the attack and not the Ambassador....
    Not where Qadhafi started, where the rebellion against him started. Benghazi is where the ambassador first went ashore. The consulate was there at his insistence. The Turkish meeting had nothing to do with weapons. The ambassador was the target. There was no departure from the annex until relief forces arrived the next day.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    To date, the only thing that this investigation has revealed in terms of "wrongdoing" is that the Obama administration clearly lied about the motive for the attack. The obvious reason for that lie is because they were in the midst of a campaign and wanted to protect certain narratives but the reason doesn't really matter. They altered the talking points and this is now established fact.

    So then... what should be the penalty for this offense? Is it even criminal?
    Yes, yes. What difference, at this point, does it make? The lies are exposed well after the fact, just like all of the other lies we know of, and probably a host of lies we don't know of. Forced admissions after the fact of accomplished events seems to make little difference as any reverence for the truth is supplanted by a substitute reality.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    No, it pretty much has gone away.... people just bringing it up because they can not comprehend that the party is actually over. Some people just can't move forward. Progressives can move forward though.

    Benghazi is heading for political obscurity along with the other dozen or so embassy attacks that resulted in death. Three years from now when you mention Benghazi at a cocktail party someone certainly will answer with ".... he was a pretty good thirdbaseman, but just could not hit in the clutch.. I'm glad the Mets traded him....."
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Well ... looks like they've chosen this approach ... hard to see what else they could do.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    this just reaffirms what a lot people already knew about the situation in that the administration pushed a set of points about the attack that they knew to be false.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yes, yes. What difference, at this point, does it make? The lies are exposed well after the fact, just like all of the other lies we know of, and probably a host of lies we don't know of. Forced admissions after the fact of accomplished events seems to make little difference as any reverence for the truth is supplanted by a substitute reality.
    That wasn't what I was getting at.

    What I am wondering is what exactly is the administration is guilty of? I'll leave it to others to argue the partisan aspects. I just want to know if what they actually did is a crime and if so, what are the consequences.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    That wasn't what I was getting at.

    What I am wondering is what exactly is the administration is guilty of? I'll leave it to others to argue the partisan aspects. I just want to know if what they actually did is a crime and if so, what are the consequences.
    Nothing legally without a huge stretch, as far as I know. It would be better to check with a legal beagle on that, though. It could be that Obama's new lawyer will come in handy sooner rather than later.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What complete, blithering hogwash. MM is looking at a smoking gun and calling it an incense candle.
    I don't know what all the fuss is about... We all know what happened there... Just ask Chrissy:



    That's it... End of story.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    The whole thing baffles me.
    If the WH thought that a video was the cause and they were wrong.....so what?
    Four Americans were killed in a war zone.
    Security in Benghazi wasn't sufficient to fend off this attack.
    Our security has been improved since the attack, hopefully.
    Doubtful that the Prez's margin of victory was affected at all.


    If ever there was an oversimplification coupled with gross insensitivity that's it.

    "four Americans were killed in a war zone, so what"? Please drop in on the relatives of the deceased and mention that will you?

    It helps to minimize the depth of the scandal to ignore the fact it was not, according to the White House, a "war zone".

    It evades the fact the White House once again lied to it's people AND the international community losing more and more credibility. It obscures the fact that a diplomat was involved in CIA activities and that help was denied him and the other three Americans

    It obscures all the facts actually.
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