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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, it pretty much has gone away.... people just bringing it up because they can not comprehend that the party is actually over. Some people just can't move forward. Progressives can move forward though.

    Benghazi is heading for political obscurity along with the other dozen or so embassy attacks that resulted in death. Three years from now when you mention Benghazi at a cocktail party someone certainly will answer with ".... he was a pretty good thirdbaseman, but just could not hit in the clutch.. I'm glad the Mets traded him....."
    I guess we'll all have to wait and see, but I think you're mistaken. I won't forget. Their names are Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Ty Woods. A United States ambassador was murdered. History will not forget this.

    And I hope that if Hillary Clinton decides to run for the Presidency, her political opponents run non-stop vid clips of that irritated "What difference does it make?" in that shrewish voice.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I was in that business for over three decades. The capacity to believe what is congenial from a policy perspective is without limit.
    Well said.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I was in that business for over three decades. The capacity to believe what is congenial from a policy perspective is without limit.
    As I said, he gave it away when he recognized the evidence wasn't there.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I said, he gave it away when he recognized the evidence wasn't there.
    That rationale was given long after the fact when "slam dunk" had become an embarrassment. I know from direct contemporaneous conversation that he believed it was true at the time.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    That rationale was given long after the fact when "slam dunk" had become an embarrassment. I know from direct contemporaneous conversation that he believed it was true at the time.
    I just don't think the logic holds. There seems to be too much information at the time to the contrary to believe the president didn't no better. Add his comment, and I just can't buy it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Confirmation bias? A very forgiving phrase. But the truth is the majority of the UN did not agree with him. We had to buy people into the coalition of the willing. The only belief held by a majority was that he had some left over, likely degrading wmds. Before all of this, there was talk of relaxing sanctions, and not fear of this crippled leader. The US itself was allowing him to smuggle oil, not at all afraid of what he might do. Nothing changed in the intel, but in the desire to go to war.
    Doesn't really matter...he didn't lie about the info he had. He presented it. The same cannot be said for the current regime that has been caught in lies on every major issue that it has been involved with to date.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I just don't think the logic holds. There seems to be too much information at the time to the contrary to believe the president didn't no better. Add his comment, and I just can't buy it.
    Believe what you will. I've given you the facts.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    Doesn't really matter...he didn't lie about the info he had. He presented it. The same cannot be said for the current regime that has been caught in lies on every major issue that it has been involved with to date.
    Really, you might look closer at the last administration. Do I need to produce videos showing clear lies by Cheney? He's closer to the president than what you have.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Believe what you will. I've given you the facts.
    Not so much. You gave me something about conversations. I think I've as well or better concerning facts.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really, you might look closer at the last administration. Do I need to produce videos showing clear lies by Cheney? He's closer to the president than what you have.
    "Clear lies by Cheney?" Doubtful.
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