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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    No that us simply not true. And it was Bush and his people (note: you don't have Obama in the emails either. Just noting your inconsistency)
    You are wrong. The information used backed up or agreed with over 20 years of known history of the Saddam regime. It was actually quite natural to deem it true. The only real fault was source critique.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it could have been a misunderstanding. It could have been someone went a little rouge and Hillary quickly ended that. What I am saying is jumping to conclusions isn't all that helpful. So far, this has been all noise on your sides part and little actual substance.
    I could have come from little green men from Mars as well....but let's stick to plausible explanations, shall we?
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    When a politician, like the loser in charge, are wrong about their facts I can accept that. You will ever hardly hear me complain about his failure to cut our health care cost by $2,500 per family because that was merely a promise he couldn't keep. Its not a big deal to me. When the dictator lies to us and the United Nations some 14 days later about the events of a militant and violent action against American interest when he KNEW that wasn't the fact (14 days later) then he should be impeached for - if nothing else - perjury.


    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    The whole thing baffles me.
    If the WH thought that a video was the cause and they were wrong.....so what?
    Four Americans were killed in a war zone.
    Security in Benghazi wasn't sufficient to fend off this attack.
    Our security has been improved since the attack, hopefully.
    Doubtful that the Prez's margin of victory was affected at all.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    Yes. It's just what I told you.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You are wrong. The information used backed up or agreed with over 20 years of known history of the Saddam regime. It was actually quite natural to deem it true. The only real fault was source critique.
    No, go, it wasn't. Bush took it beyond what was known, using doubted intel.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, go, it wasn't. Bush took it beyond what was known, using doubted intel.
    Absolutely incorrect.

    You had a Dictator who had used Chemical weapons not only on his enemies, but on his own people. You had a Dictator claiming for ten years that he had chemical weapons and the ability to make them....then you had an insider (the questionable source) claim that he had them.

    Try again, Boo, your attempt to derail this subject is failing miserably.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    this just reaffirms what a lot people already knew about the situation in that the administration pushed a set of points about the attack that they knew to be false.
    andrew mccarthy hits the nail on the head about the issue as best that can be done.

    the administration's response was to protect their campaign for reelection by lying.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rew-c-mccarthy
    Go Vols

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

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    Absolutely incorrect.

    You had a Dictator who had used Chemical weapons not only on his enemies, but on his own people. You had a Dictator claiming for ten years that he had chemical weapons and the ability to make them....then you had an insider (the questionable source) claim that he had them.

    Try again, Boo, your attempt to derail this subject is failing miserably.
    No. We had inspectors in there for years. We had already had accounted for much of it. We knew his capacity had been hindered. After Clinton bombed the aspirin factory, we declared that threat over (check comments by his defense sec.). We suspected he had some left over wmds, with no real way to house them. Bush took it well beyond that. He said growing and gathering, with no real support for that. He exaggerated everything, ignoring the many voices pointing out that error. You may forget the French didn't buy it. So, we demonized the French. The UN wouldn't back it, calling us the greatest threat to peace. Surprising, we demonized the UN. At every turn the correct voices, those who were right, who called them on their deception, those who wanted war made excuses, threw out fallacious statements of everyone agreeing, having now demonized disagreement.

    So, no, the willingness of some to believe and ignore voices to the contrary doesn't equal everyone agreed.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. We had inspectors in there for years. We had already had accounted for much of it. We knew his capacity had been hindered. After Clinton bombed the aspirin factory, we declared that threat over (check comments by his defense sec.). We suspected he had some left over wmds, with no real way to house them. Bush took it well beyond that. He said growing and gathering, with no real support for that. He exaggerated everything, ignoring the many voices pointing out that error. You may forget the French didn't buy it. So, we demonized the French. The UN wouldn't back it, calling us the greatest threat to peace. Surprising, we demonized the UN. At every turn the correct voices, those who were right, who called them on their deception, those who wanted war made excuses, threw out fallacious statements of everyone agreeing, having now demonized disagreement.

    So, no, the willingness of some to believe and ignore voices to the contrary doesn't equal everyone agreed.
    Oh, boy. Neither the French nor the Russian's "bought it". Turns out that they were the two countries with sovereign oil fields in Iraq. You're going to have to do better than "Bush exaggerated".

    Now, Bush is no longer President, how about we talk about the current President's lies. Well, at least the lies about Benghazi....all the other lies will have to be for other threads.
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    Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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