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    Re: Imam to Obama: ‘End Oppression of Muslims’; Obama to Imam: ‘Pray for Me’

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    Re: Imam to Obama: ‘End Oppression of Muslims’; Obama to Imam: ‘Pray for Me’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As with all religions, what and who is devout or not is subjective. While I do not doubt that some forms of Islam may see smoking as haram, the act is more cultural. Hookah's have been used in the middle east since the 16th century and granted, they did not know of ill effects of tobacco until the rest of us in the 1930's. I guess my main point is that many things are considered haram, but it depends upon the individual and who is or is not devout is very subjective. I'll give a non-smoking example; Gold on men is haram that is in the Qu'ran. Yet if you ever get a chance to go to the ME, notice how many men wear gold.
    Lets remember he was in Malaysia. Indonesia muslims see tobacco as haram and Malaysia fatwa, tobacco is haram in only Kuala Lumpur.

    The Imam was Malaysian.


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    Re: Imam to Obama: ‘End Oppression of Muslims’; Obama to Imam: ‘Pray for Me’

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Lets remember he was in Malaysia. Indonesia muslims see tobacco as haram and Malaysia fatwa, tobacco is haram in only Kuala Lumpur.

    The Imam was Malaysian.
    So, not all Muslims are the same. They don't represent a solid block of people whose mindset is to hate the West, believe that liberty is evil, and that killing as many infidels as possible is the way to Heaven.

    Good to know.
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