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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    was there any real proof of harassment?
    Geez. What are you, a lawyer or something?
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    And there are anti gun assholes who will claim to be pro gun to POE the pro rights movement
    heck, anti gun assholes are more likely to blast someone who wants to market a gun then I am
    Oh boy, here we go.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    How did he get the charge? Drinking during the hunt, failure to follow hunting law, or was it a negligent shot? I'm curious because I've seen a few hunting accidents without any charges filed, things can happen when you go on a hunt and fortunately laws do allow for accidents for the most part.
    It happened very easily and without warning, he wasn't even trying to fire.

    They were small-game hunting. He and his friend were in some rough wood, climbing over fallen logs and debris, his finger slipped and fired the shotgun, which due to his maneuvering in the rough wood was pointed at his friend only a few feet away. His friend took the full force of the shot to the chest, the concussion stopping his heart instantly.

    The state charged him with 1st-degree Homicide arguing negligence and they didn't have hunting permits, but his lawyer struck a plea deal to reduce it to 2nd-degree Manslaughter (damn good lawyer imo). He served 18 months with 4 years suspended pending compliance with parole. Next year his parole will be up, and the court has already agreed to reinstate his voting and gun rights then.

    I have no problem with violent felons having guns, as long as they're not violent people.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It happened very easily and without warning, he wasn't even trying to fire.

    They were small-game hunting. He and his friend were in some rough wood, climbing over fallen logs and debris, his finger slipped and fired the shotgun, which due to his maneuvering in the rough wood was pointed at his friend only a few feet away. His friend took the full force of the shot to the chest, the concussion stopping his heart instantly.

    The state charged him with 1st-degree Homicide but his lawyer struck a plea deal to reduce it to 2nd-degree Manslaughter. He served 18 months with 4 years suspended pending compliance with parole. Next year his parole will be up, and the court has already agreed to reinstate his voting and gun rights then.
    Geez. That sucks.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It happened very easily and without warning, he wasn't even trying to fire.

    They were small-game hunting. He and his friend were in some rough wood, climbing over fallen logs and debris, his finger slipped and fired the shotgun, which due to his maneuvering in the rough wood was pointed at his friend only a few feet away. His friend took the full force of the shot to the chest, the concussion stopping his heart instantly.

    The state charged him with 1st-degree Homicide but his lawyer struck a plea deal to reduce it to 2nd-degree Manslaughter. He served 18 months with 4 years suspended pending compliance with parole. Next year his parole will be up, and the court has already agreed to reinstate his voting and gun rights then.
    Damn, sorry that happened to your friend. I don't even think he would have been charged under La. law, usually here you would have to have a contributing factor like intoxication, or violating hunting law, etc.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

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    Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'[W:196]The personal jabs and baiting needs to stop NOW. Half the thread is filled with it and I seriously considered flushing this thread. However I'm not going to do that. That would be too easy. Suffice it to say that the next personal jab or bait that I see is going to earn that person infraction points and a thread ban. Along with everyone else that does it. Stay on topic and address the POSTS and NOT the postERS.

    And FYI, challenging someone to a debate on the Constitution or parts of it is NOT a threat nor is it bullying. This whole forum is about debating people and challenging people to debates.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    .....Rather, the new "Moms" group has attacked the NRA for obstructing back grounds checks via private seller loopholes, their fixation with AR-15 clones, their expansion of "Stand Your Ground" laws to new states, and support of "carry a weapon to a bar" type laws.....
    That's not a loophole.
    Loophole
    : a means of escape; especially: an ambiguity or omission in the text through which the intent of a statute, contract, or obligation may be evaded
    The original intent of Gun Control Act and FOPA did not include a desire to run a background check on every single gun sale ever. The rule only applied to FFL holders.

    If you're now saying the original intent of the GCT and FOPA was to document every gun sale, then that's a conspiracy theory you're welcome to open a thread on in the Conspiracy Theory forum of DebatePolitics.com.

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    If you don't have a Commercial Drivers License, you do not have to get a physical every year and receive a DoT medical card to drive your car to work. It's not that you're getting away with some loophole, its that the rule doesn't apply to you because you don't have that license.

    Performing background checks is a requirement of having an Federal Firearms License , so naturally if you don't have an FFL, those rules do not apply to you, just like you don't have to get a DoT medical card if you don't have a CDL.

    Likewise you don't need to perform a background check or go through a licensed auto dealer to sell your car.
    Last edited by Jerry; 04-28-14 at 11:05 PM.

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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you sort of brand yourself permanently disqualified from being taken seriously when you talk about the private sale loophole.
    You are splitting hairs via terminology. A the end of the day, I bet these sales are exempt a back ground check:

    -Sales conduced by somebody who does not have an FFL- and
    this person sells less than about twenty weapons per year.

    You can use whatever terminology you wish o describe this- it does not alter the core fact.
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    You cannot “…keep affirming the Second Amendment…” by proposing and advocating ways to violate it.
    The NRA has been tossing that out for years- "If you fail to support each and every one of our demands, then you are "anti gun". People have accepted that line for years, but those days are coming to a close.

    Virginia - not Connecticut, just put an "anti gun" senator, governor and a what- attorney general in office. One of them received an "F" rating and openly said he could care less what the NRA gave him. Things are changing.
    Last edited by Cryptic; 04-28-14 at 11:17 PM.

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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's disappointing that only two people in this thread seem to be bothered by the woman's harassment.

    If gun enthusiasts value 'rights' then they should oppose those who are harassing her and realize/recognize how creepy and dangerous THAT behavior is. What will responses be if she ends up being shot or harassed further as a result? Why? Because she thinks a product is beneficial and good and so she sells it?
    This.

    I will defer to the gun experts in this thread and assume that the item Ms. Padilla is attempting to market is an ill-conceived design. In fact, I think we had a thread around here recently mocking it. But even if that is the case, there are wrong ways to say the right thing. Two wrongs do not make a right, something that seems to have been lost on those who chose not to respect her privacy. So instead of this being a teachable moment of learning not to market a feel-good item that just won't work, now the anti-gun people are going to use these harassers as "gun nut" scapegoats, despite the likelihood that most critiques of the design were probably calm and level-headed.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What if the owner is in a life threatening situation, and family members were in a position to intervene?
    If you have the watch, you get a 30-second time out to put the thing on and arm the weapon. Because the potential attacker will be so mesmerized by all the cool gadgetry that he won't even think about shooting at first.
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