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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually more incidents are committed with a legal gun owner's own gun. You should worry more about gun owners who never took a gun safety course.
    Gun owners 100% should take a safety course or sorts. I'm hesitant to say it's mandatory though because then nothing really stops the government from charging 1200/course and only offering it once a year on Christmas. Though if we wanted to say that gun safety and handling should be a standard high school course like driver's ed, then I'd be down for that. Educate everyone.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

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    No, I drop in here to exchange ideas, not defend my character. Your opinion is as valid as mine even if it is wrong...
    We'll just have to agree to disagree, then.

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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by darkrecess View Post
    'Gun enthusiasts' threaten woman for selling a safer gun

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/us...obby.html?_r=0

    Posted a couple of links. How sad is it that the NRA opposes technology that would limit the usage of handguns?

    In the words of the NRA, this might lead to "opening the door to a ban on all guns that do not possess the government-required technology."

    Except that no one at this point is even suggesting this technology be government mandated. Given the millions of legal guns currently in circulation, I am not even certain that such a requirement could even be technically or logistically feasible, let alone desirable.

    But... leaving that aside for a moment, how deluded are people if they think that this is the beginning of some kind of gun-armageddon? No one is suggesting you give up normal guns, no one is suggesting that we get rid of them. This is just one way of protecting people from gun-related accidents and tragedies. In the words of the Daily Kos article,
    You have to be pretty ignorant to think that government won't try, and that in the attempt, make it considerably more difficult and affordable for law-abiding citizens to “legally” acquire firearms. I don't know that this is Ms. Padilla's intent, but you have to know that that is going to happen.

    It's already happened, to a degree, in California. A law was enacted here, requiring all new handguns meeting certain criteria to include “micro-stamping”*technology. The result is that several manufactures of affected guns have simply withdrawn them from the California market, citing the infeasibility of meeting this new requirement. This “smart gun” technology has far more potential to be abused in a similar manner, as a means of making guns unaffordable and unavailable to the public, than it has to prevent any accidental injuries or deaths.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Gun owners 100% should take a safety course or sorts. I'm hesitant to say it's mandatory though because then nothing really stops the government from charging 1200/course and only offering it once a year on Christmas. Though if we wanted to say that gun safety and handling should be a standard high school course like driver's ed, then I'd be down for that. Educate everyone.
    One doesn't need a course necessarily, one just needs to make sure they understand safety which is easy and only requires a bit of common sense. Don't point until ready to shoot, don't point at anything you don't want to shoot, don't put a finger on the trigger until ready to shoot, check the chamber when in doubt, and always know the location and accessibility of your firearm to insure that children and irresponsible people cannot access them. Follow those basics and no one will be hurt.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    If the technology fails, and the owner dies because the weapon wouldn't work, was it worth it?
    The criminal who murdered him would likely think so.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    One doesn't need a course necessarily, one just needs to make sure they understand safety which is easy and only requires a bit of common sense. Don't point until ready to shoot, don't point at anything you don't want to shoot, don't put a finger on the trigger until ready to shoot, check the chamber when in doubt, and always know the location and accessibility of your firearm to insure that children and irresponsible people cannot access them. Follow those basics and no one will be hurt.
    One don't necessarily need a course in driving either. Small skinny pedal makes you go, fat one makes you stop. But we still offer the education to everyone, we even require that kids attend such classes. While I know that not everyone would need a safety course, there ain't no harm if we offer it standard in High School.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I agree with this. Let the consumer decide....not the NRA.
    The problem is that ultimately, if this is not stopped, it will be neither the consumer nor the NRA that will get to decide, but government. The same government that nearly always sides with criminals and tyrants, and against honest citizens, any time the right to keep and bear arms is involved.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Gun owners 100% should take a safety course or sorts. I'm hesitant to say it's mandatory though because then nothing really stops the government from charging 1200/course and only offering it once a year on Christmas. Though if we wanted to say that gun safety and handling should be a standard high school course like driver's ed, then I'd be down for that. Educate everyone.
    Yeah, mandatory might have been too strong a word on a gun forum. In retrospect I probably should have used 'pre-requisite'. Gun courses don't have to be through the government....but certain standards should apply.

    I don't have a problem with teaching gun safety in public schools...but then that would be through the government.

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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yeah, mandatory might have been too strong a word on a gun forum. In retrospect I probably should have used 'pre-requisite'. Gun courses don't have to be through the government....but certain standards should apply.

    I don't have a problem with teaching gun safety in public schools...but then that would be through the government.
    It could be, but government isn't necessarily universally a dirty word. If it was standard with education, then it's part and parcel with the lot and would require relatively no additional work on the side of the individual. I suppose there are always concerns of indoctrination and such, but I would see a gun ed course as being very similar to the driver ed course, at least ideally.
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    Re: Gun enthusiasts threaten woman for marketing 'safer gun'

    I like the idea. Women who have kids won't purse carry for fear of their little ones getting to it.

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