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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    For those claiming that torture doesn't work, I have a question--If you knew something that I wanted to know, are you saying I couldn't torture it out of you?
    Depends on what it was. You would never get any usable codes from me for access to any of my computer security systems that I want locked down. Information can be made unusable even if it is factually true. Torture would only work for certain types of information and in certain circumstances. Specific information is probably the worst kind of information to be extracted by torture due to the fact that it can be shaded and the shading may actually be the important part of the information.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Depends on what it was. You would never get any usable codes from me for access to any of my computer security systems that I want locked down. Information can be made unusable even if it is factually true. Torture would only work for certain types of information and in certain circumstances. Specific information is probably the worst kind of information to be extracted by torture due to the fact that it can be shaded and the shading may actually be the important part of the information.
    Really? Something tells me if you were locked away in some Iraqi torture chamber you would tell them whatever they wanted to know. I know I would. But maybe Im just a wuss lol

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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Really? Something tells me if you were locked away in some Iraqi torture chamber you would tell them whatever they wanted to know. I know I would. But maybe Im just a wuss lol
    The key word is usable. Its not a matter of manliness, its a matter of knowledge. Torture works only if you have the information required and it is relatively simple. If it gets complicated, then the torturer is pretty much SOL.

    I am very big on system security for computer systems and computerized locks. Because of the nature of the locks it is possible to design a system were one would know the initial codes required but the codes would be unusable regardless without specific knowledge. Computers make locking things up very securely possible, its simply a matter of design. Codes are only the beginning of the design.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    For those claiming that torture doesn't work, I have a question--If you knew something that I wanted to know, are you saying I couldn't torture it out of you?
    Leftists can be very flexible in their beliefs. They'd be singing God Bless America and telling everything they knew as soon as they saw the water.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a fact, so agreement is not required. In the UN speech, as a rationale for the invasion, it is fact that false testimony was used. It's a fact.
    Kind of like letting Jeffrey Dahmer go because you think one person didn't tell the truth about him. Doesn't change the crimes he committed.
    Really doesn't matter, since it is irrelevant and there were other reasons to remove Hussain. Saddam, not Barack. There are plenty of reasons to remove him too.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you really don't know much of what you talk about.

    The Dems politicized the NRA by using Gun control as a shield against the valid charges that Dems-especially Dem judges were soft on street criminals
    You do realize in the 60's and early 70's the NRA supported gun control right? It wasnt until the mid 70's that the party was divided and they began lobbying efforts.

    you want to whine about the NRA because most of us in that group think socialism is a disease that ought to be flushed down the toilet.
    Uhhh socialism is an economic system. What does gun ownership have to do with economics?

    whining about guns is just a facade for what really upsets the loony left
    You go realize that I owe a gun.


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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Kind of like letting Jeffrey Dahmer go because you think one person didn't tell the truth about him. Doesn't change the crimes he committed.
    Really doesn't matter, since it is irrelevant and there were other reasons to remove Hussain. Saddam, not Barack. There are plenty of reasons to remove him too.
    Yes, it matters. None of those reason prompted any invasion prior. The lynch pin, the difference, was the "growing and gathering" lie. It was the "slam dunk" that would convince the public.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, it matters. None of those reason prompted any invasion prior. The lynch pin, the difference, was the "growing and gathering" lie. It was the "slam dunk" that would convince the public.
    Of course, 9/11 changed our stance. We could no longer sit back and wait for an attack. We could not let Saddam continue in power. We were right to act and protect ourselves. Not like we didn't warn him, or give him over a year to comply. He could have left power as one of the richest men in the world. He never thought we would follow through and remove him. Well, we did. And the world is a better place without him.
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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Of course, 9/11 changed our stance. We could no longer sit back and wait for an attack. We could not let Saddam continue in power. We were right to act and protect ourselves. Not like we didn't warn him, or give him over a year to comply. He could have left power as one of the richest men in the world. He never thought we would follow through and remove him. Well, we did. And the world is a better place without him.
    Attacking Iraq did nothing to prevent another attack. And invading Iraq was in no way protecting ourselves. He had no choice put to put us off, as he feared Iran as much as us. You'd do better to ask why Iran helped us go in. You might also review our helper Chalibi and his connections to Iran (not to mention why the CIA didn't trust him and his heroes in Error).

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Attacking Iraq did nothing to prevent another attack. And invading Iraq was in no way protecting ourselves. He had no choice put to put us off, as he feared Iran as much as us. You'd do better to ask why Iran helped us go in. You might also review our helper Chalibi and his connections to Iran (not to mention why the CIA didn't trust him and his heroes in Error).
    I am just so glad that that dirt ball and his sub human garbage of a family are gone for good. If we hadn't gone in, bye now a nuke would have gone off in Israel, NYC, or Washington.
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