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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My Games

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Amanda1858 said:
I have heard the NBA may force him to sell his team. It would serve him right. If Black basketball players are the ones keeping him wealthy, the least he could do is speak kindly of them.
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It wouldn't bother him, I'll bet. He's worth billions. His original investment in that team was nothing compared to what it's worth now. He'll laugh his way to the bank.
 
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Actually that was my first thought, there is no doubt it is an invasion of privacy and I imagine his attorney is pursuing a lawsuit or some other legal remedy.

In the meantime the guy is a racist pig. The first time I heard his words I thought for sure it was some sort of computer construct, I did not believe someone could still be that stupid. The ignorant of the world never ceases to amaze me.
tres borrachos said:
Yes it is.
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tres borrachos said:
Yes it is.
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It depends on the state. Most states are single party consent states where only one party has to give consent to the recording of a conversation.
 
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mak2 said:
Actually that was my first thought, there is no doubt it is an invasion of privacy and I imagine his attorney is pursuing a lawsuit or some other legal remedy.

In the meantime the guy is a racist pig. The first time I heard his words I thought for sure it was some sort of computer construct, I did not believe someone could still be that stupid. The ignorant of the world never ceases to amaze me.
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Which words specifically?
 
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tres borrachos said:
Of course that's your observation.

The difference between me and others is I'm not a hypocrite. I believe that people have a right to privacy in their bedrooms, which is why I am very much in favor of gay rights. I also believe that women have a right to privacy when it comes to their bodies, which is why I am pro-choice. I don't pick and choose the meme of privacy as apparently many others do. This man made a private statement to his female friend that is, simply put, none of our business. It was made in private, and he has a right to say what he wants. It's his First Amendment right, especially in private.

Racism to me means people getting hurt by the actions of others, including oppression, prevention of success, terror, death, and other assorted things that actually do harm. Who exactly was harmed by what he said to his girlfriend? This guy owns a team that employs how many black people? Lots. The irony of his words make this a total non-issue.

Agree with him on what, by the way? Agree with him that he doesn't want his girlfriend to bring black people to his team's games? Agree with him that he doesn't want her to post pictures of herself with black people? I didn't know we were supposed to agree or disagree with that. Why would I or anyone care who his girlfriend brings to games, or who she takes selfies with?
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You agree with him that discrimination is okay and its not racism. Which is fine, you're entitled to your beliefs and he his, but others may disagree. His privacy was violated but its a moot issue now. Don't you find it kind of strange a person who owns a basketball team doesn't like black people? Can you not understand why this would be a big deal to a lot of folks?
 
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Tralfamadore said:
It depends on the state. Most states are single party consent states where only one party has to give consent to the recording of a conversation.
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If it happened in California, she broke California's eavesdropping law, Penal Code § 632
 
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Verax said:
You agree with him that discrimination is okay and its not racism. Which is fine, you're entitled to your beliefs and he his, but others may disagree. His privacy was violated but its a moot issue now. Don't you find it kind of strange a person who owns a basketball team doesn't like black people? Can you not understand why this would be a big deal to a lot of folks?
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The only words I heard him say, besides rambling about how badly they treat blacks in Israel, were about his girlfriend and her selfies & who she brings to games. I'll ask again what there is to agree or disagree with? I don't care who his girlfriend brings to his games. Why on earth would I?

I've also said repeatedly how strange his comments are given what team he owns. Did you not read any of them? Apparently not.

So who was hurt by his words? Who was oppressed, held back, suffered....I still don't get that.

If he told his girlfriend not to bring her German friends to the games anymore, would you be this worked up?
 
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Wow, he used the N word once in 1983.
 
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Do you think he is a racist? Do you think it is possible a man who thinks and talks like this might have actively discriminated against anyone? Why do you defend these guys so vehemently?
tres borrachos said:
I saw that. I asked you which words you find to be racist.
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tres borrachos said:
The only words I heard him say, besides rambling about how badly they treat blacks in Israel, were about his girlfriend and her selfies & who she brings to games. I'll ask again what there is to agree or disagree with? I don't care who his girlfriend brings to his games. Why on earth would I?

I've also said repeatedly how strange his comments are given what team he owns. Did you not read any of them? Apparently not.

So who was hurt by his words? Who was oppressed, held back, suffered....I still don't get that.

If he told his girlfriend not to bring her German friends to the games anymore, would you be this worked up?
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I see there is little point in talking to you. My mistake.
 
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I have to try really hard not to bust out a gut laugh right now. Whew.
 
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mak2 said:
Do you think he is a racist? Do you think it is possible a man who thinks and talks like this might have actively discriminated against anyone? Why do you defend these guys so vehemently?
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Based on that list (which is weak, by the way....I only see him use the N word once, and it was 21 years ago), and based on the fact that he was set to receive an award from the NAACP for his philanthropy to those people he's supposed to hate? No, I don't see him as a racist. Racists to me are the men who lynched blacks and forced them to sit at the back of the bus and wouldn't let a great man like Jackie Robinson play baseball for years simply because he was black. FDR was racist to people of Asian descent because he interred them in camps and stole their possessions.

This guy mouthed off to his girlfriend. BFD, as far as I'm concerned.

Does the NAACP make it a habit of deciding to give awards to people who make no positive contributions to the black community?
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Of course not. But still they will get paid even if they fortified.
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I would think that would be in violation of the contract - forfeiting any pay. No?
 
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Verax said:
I see there is little point in talking to you. My mistake.
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You're right. I don't believe someone's words to his girlfriend are important enough to get my panties in a bunch. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
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Did you catch the clippers game tonight? they were a bit offended.
tres borrachos said:
Based on that list (which is weak, by the way....I only see him use the N word once, and it was 21 years ago), and based on the fact that he was set to receive an award from the NAACP for his philanthropy to those people he's supposed to hate? No, I don't see him as a racist. Racists to me are the men who lynched blacks and forced them to sit at the back of the bus and wouldn't let a great man like Jackie Robinson play baseball for years simply because he was black. FDR was racist to people of Asian descent because he interred them in camps and stole their possessions.

This guy mouthed off to his girlfriend. BFD, as far as I'm concerned.

Does the NAACP make it a habit of deciding to give awards to people who make no positive contributions to the black community?
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mak2 said:
Did you catch the clippers game tonight? they were a bit offended.
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No, I was too elated at the Rangers win and besides, I'm a disgruntled Knicks fan so I've sworn off the NBA playoffs.

I'm sure they were offended. Getting offended by words has become a common event in the USA. I don't let words bother me. Actions are more important.

This guy must really hate black people. That would explain why he has a black man coaching his very expensive black players....yes?
 
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Kobie said:
Not only that, but the idea that Bundy's comments were "used to paint the entire Republican party as racist" is nonsense.
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What now? There were multiple articles following his comments about how republicans are racist. Further articles that if republicans don't want to be labeled racist, they should stop associating with people like him and Nugent, etc.
 
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Donald Sterling has a well documented history of this. I was listening to ESPN radio this morning and they were interviewing a former player and coach(can't remember his name) that said this latest comment he made was "small potatoes" compared to some of the stuff that he has said over the years. Apparently his racism is "common knowledge" amongst insiders.

Kind of made me wonder after hearing that why the league has put up with him this long...
 
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Money.
jack fabulous said:
donald sterling has a well documented history of this. I was listening to espn radio this morning and they were interviewing a former player and coach(can't remember his name) that said this latest comment he made was "small potatoes" compared to some of the stuff that he has said over the years. Apparently his racism is "common knowledge" amongst insiders.

Kind of made me wonder after hearing that why the league has put up with him this long...
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buck said:
What now? There were multiple articles following his comments about how republicans are racist. Further articles that if republicans don't want to be labeled racist, they should stop associating with people like him and Nugent, etc.
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From who? What sources?
 
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