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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Until an amendment such as that passes, it matters not. I'm waiting for a Republican to get more popular votes and then lose the electoral college. Most of you will suddenly change your tune.
    No, I wouldn't. But the far more likely problem on the horizon is what happens when the national popular vote goes to a Republican and NY State popular vote goes for the Democrat. I'm guessing the NY residents will be demanding a change very quickly.

    In this case, Romney won Alabama comfortably. So those electoral votes did not affect the outcome of the Presidential election at all because even if proven, these allegations wouldn't change anything.
    The point is you can no longer just write off these as localized problems given that several states, including New York, now cast EVs based on popular Vote so a vote in Alabama will actually be casting a vote in New York as well.

    Ironically, New York has essentially given their residents LESS of a voice in all future elections.
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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    The thing that gets me is that so many on the left just shrug off the issue as unimportant 'because Romney won' in Alabama. I suspect they would also just shrug it off had Obama won in Alabama and would be accusing those questioning those numbers as just sour grapes.

    But can you imagine them just shrugging it off if there had been more registered voters than adult population and Romney had won those counties? Somehow I think Romney voters would not be so dismissive as I would like to think those of us on the right think the integrity of the system should be as important to everybody as who won.

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yes...and I know that allegedly, Obama pulled 97% of the black vote nationwide in the last election. ALL of the statistics in the black communities are absolute anomalies. WAY beyond statistical norms. It would be no different if there are reported statistics showing greater than normal responses for a white community. The examples cited in those 4 counties are ridiculously above norms.
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    Chutzpah? No concern about being caught? Why would a poll worker admit to committing fraud by filling out other peoples ballots? Maybe because she got a slap on the wrist and a heroes welcome? Or...I dont know...because they can count on like minded people rushing to their aid insisting there is nothing to see here...move it along.
    Well it was also an election featuring our first major black Presidental candidate plus our first black President, it was well documented that it caused a much greater voter turnout especially among blacks than what was historical. And even if a voter fraud scheme had little risk of getting caught, which clearly it didn't sense OP "figured it out" right, why do it if it has no chance of reward? Low risk, high reward? I could buy it, but low, risk no reward? I don't believe it.

    Here see here's a source that shows that the 2012 election bucked national trends on voter turnout as blacks turned out more than whites per a percent of their overall voting age population.
    Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Do you have anything besides your opinions and speculation to back up your claim that there was rampant voter fraud in these counties?

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Well it was also an election featuring our first major black Presidental candidate plus our first black President, it was well documented that it caused a much greater voter turnout especially among blacks than what was historical. And even if a voter fraud scheme had little risk of getting caught, which clearly it didn't sense OP "figured it out" right, why do it if it has no chance of reward? Low risk, high reward? I could buy it, but low, risk no reward? I don't believe it.

    Here see here's a source that shows that the 2012 election bucked national trends on voter turnout as blacks turned out more than whites per a percent of their overall voting age population.
    Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Do you have anything besides your opinions and speculation to back up your claim that there was rampant voter fraud in these counties?
    Of course not. There hasnt been an investigation. I DO have the facts and the facts are hinky and bear investigating. Conversely, you and people like you rely on nothing more than your kneejerk insistence that there must not cannot shant not will not be any indicators of impropriety...even when it is smack dab in the middle of your face. Over the 4 years here I have posted numerous incidents of voter fraud (committed from both parties BTW) and the response is always the same. "un UH! Never! Doesnt happen. You cant show any convictions. Ever. Never. Well...ok...but thats not significant even if it did happen. OH SEE...Republicans commit voter fraud!"

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah just ignore the fact that they literally don't actually know how many people live there. I'm sure that's not relevant
    Voter ID's will solve some of that problem. So irrelevant now to some extent, but extremely convenient for those on the left that love to cheat and rob Americans of their voice at the ballot box.

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Hmmm, a state that Romney won decisively and with Repub Senators. Must be the left. That's the only possible explanation.
    Heh. I guess you didn't view the article cited in the OP. The counties in question went for Obama. Amazing, eh?

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yes...and I know that allegedly, Obama pulled 97% of the black vote nationwide in the last election. ALL of the statistics in the black communities are absolute anomalies. WAY beyond statistical norms. It would be no different if there are reported statistics showing greater than normal responses for a white community. The examples cited in those 4 counties are ridiculously above norms.
    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course not. There hasnt been an investigation. I DO have the facts and the facts are hinky and bear investigating. Conversely, you and people like you rely on nothing more than your kneejerk insistence that there must not cannot shant not will not be any indicators of impropriety...even when it is smack dab in the middle of your face. Over the 4 years here I have posted numerous incidents of voter fraud (committed from both parties BTW) and the response is always the same. "un UH! Never! Doesnt happen. You cant show any convictions. Ever. Never. Well...ok...but thats not significant even if it did happen. OH SEE...Republicans commit voter fraud!"
    I've posted several sources relating to these counties, you haven't posted any.

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Check the overall results in Alabama. Tell me who got the electoral votes.

    Now tell me if you're unhappy with the outcome.
    Of course I'm pissed. Clearly abuse of our electoral system is taking place. R or D, I or L or G, if you mess with the election process you threaten trust in our very system of government, and I hope they don't so much throw the book at you as smash you repeatedly with it in the courtroom, leaving you broken inside and out, forever a warning to any tempted to do likewise.

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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Actually...criminal convictions really prove nothing. Thats clearly on display every time voter fraud is proven to exist. Cuz...yeah...sure...OK...a LITTLE fraud. But come on...its not THAT bad.

    As I have said on at least THREE occasions now...we dont KNOW if fraud was committed. We DO know those numbers are counter to the rest of the state, counter to the national voter averages, counter to their population counts. They bear investigation.
    And once more you prove you have no idea of how voter registration and the maintaining of voter registration files works. The reason there are no criminal convictions or elections being set aside is because you require actual PROOF that fraud occurred. Accusations are cheap, which is why every time an election doesn't go the way somebody likes, they cry fraud. I'll ask once more - how many voters were registered in these counties at the time of the election and how many actually voted?

    As far as investigation is concerned, if the right wing authorities that dominate Alabama's political power structure don't find anything worthy of investigating, it's probably because there is nothing to investigate. You're basing your allegations on population numbers that were at least two years old and a voter registration count prior to the purging of the files for inactive voters - that is those who have died, moved, or otherwise no longer are participants in the system.
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    Re: 4 Alabama counties have more active, registered voters than adult population

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Heh. I guess you didn't view the article cited in the OP. The counties in question went for Obama. Amazing, eh?
    And the Republicans that hold all of the power in Alabama just decided to do nothing? Do you guys ever thing things through, or are you just so convinced that if Obama wins anything - even if its at the county level - there must be fraud involved?
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