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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Considering those "folks" are not harming anything(as you put it) I imagine he'd "behave" just fine_

    Although heavily armed Federal Agents wearing body armor would very likely show-up to remove them_
    Men like that?????!!!!! I seriously doubt it. He'd be claiming they were encroaching on "his" land.
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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Good for them. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    what has sen fielder actually told us which would allow improvements to be made by federal land management agencies
    what policies are conflicting and how does the to be identified conflict hamper the land management to the state's detriment
    what does he mean by politicized science. what about the science is found unscientific
    and that national financial crisis he mentions. isn't it the federal government which is bailing out the states that are experiencing lower revenues and higher expenses. then how is it the federal financial condition is found to be an impediment to land management
    Unbelievable Have you maybe been in a coma for twenty years??? Seriously; I am not flame baiting either!

    I assumed the answers to the questions you put forth here were common knowledge, considering they have all been at the center of political controversy and debate for many years now, some even for decades_

    Anyone who participates in political debate should be well versed in both party positions of these major issues_

    the senator makes observations which are vague, wrong, and/or without genuine basis regarding federal land management
    That's odd?! I completely understood every word Senator Jennifer Fielder was saying and consider her basis totally genuine_

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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Let me guess...a land fire sale.
    I highly suspect that you know exactly what all of this "Bundy crap" is about Rabbit_
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    Like Ecofarm, you have no sensible or rational defense for your big-government position_
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    Like Ecofarm, you've had to resort to the same frivolous tactic of diversion via comedy_
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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    What was the reason for not paying the range fees? Other people do.
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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    History is ripe with examples of long-time tolerances of injustice until one brave soul stands up and says enough!

    When that one brave soul stands alone, tyranny prevails but when other brave souls join in, tyranny is defeated_
    It would help if the right were more consistent regarding Individual Liberty and forms of "double-taxation" since we already pay taxes for Government.

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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I highly suspect that you know exactly what all of this "Bundy crap" is about Rabbit_
    but
    Like Ecofarm, you have no sensible or rational defense for your big-government position_
    and
    Like Ecofarm, you've had to resort to the same frivolous tactic of diversion via comedy_
    Is that against DP? Okay, to be serious, I do believe that this is the same thing that happened with Sagebrush Rebellion. Alec was behind it. They claimed it themselves. It's a land grab.

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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Unbelievable Have you maybe been in a coma for twenty years??? Seriously; I am not flame baiting either!
    while i disagree, we will have to let the mod staff make its own determination

    I assumed the answers to the questions you put forth here were common knowledge, considering they have all been at the center of political controversy and debate for many years now, some even for decades_
    i did notice in your post that you failed to answer those very legitimate questions. if the answers are common knowledge, then share what that knowledge happens to be

    Anyone who participates in political debate should be well versed in both party positions of these major issues_
    everyone has to start somewhere, so begin by sharing what you know about the party positions on those identified issues

    That's odd?! I completely understood every word Senator Jennifer Fielder was saying and consider her basis totally genuine_
    i understood her words. but not what she was attempting to convey. let's address the points she was listing:
    "There is a distinct difference in the way federal agencies are managing the federal lands today," Sen. Fielder said. "They used to do a good job, but they are hamstrung now with conflicting policies, politicized science, and an extreme financial crisis at the national level. It makes it impossible for these federal agencies to manage the lands responsibly anymore."
    conflicting policies. what are the conflicting policies the agencies have established, and in what ways do said conflicting policies adversely impact the agency's efforts to manage the federal lands?
    politicized science. what does sen fielder mean by such a statement? science should be able to stand alone, and remain independent of political views. what science does she find to be skewed by politics, in what manner, and how does such political imprint undermine the federal role in managing federal lands?
    extreme financial crisis at the national level. first of all, what is found to be an extreme federal financial crisis, and second, how does the purported federal financial crisis cause the federal agencys' actions to be deficient relative to their administration of federal lands?

    you insist this is well known information. i look forward to you sharing your knowledge of it with us

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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Men like that?????!!!!! I seriously doubt it. He'd be claiming they were encroaching on "his" land.
    Men like what????!!!!!

    You appear to be demonizing a man you know little about beyond his defiance of Big Government_
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    Re: Western states move to take over federal land

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Men like what????!!!!!

    You appear to be demonizing a man you know little about beyond his defiance of Big Government_
    Living as long as I have in Texas and Idaho, I can glean what men like him are all about, it's not hard to figure. He's a rich welfare queen living off the teat of the government.
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