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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders | ThinkProgress

    This was reported on Fox news, but I can't seem to find a MSM news report about it?

    On one hand it could be good. We shouldn't imprison victimless crimes. If people want to kill themselves doing drugs we should let them. 130k a year, I hear is the average cost to imprison someone. It would be cheaper to give them free drugs at outpatient clinics and let them rot in the streets.

    One problem with it is that it could add hundreds of thousands of instant Democrat voters to the rolls.
    Here is another article for you:
    Justice Department prepares for clemency requests from thousands of inmates - The Washington Post

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...and these criminals are felons, and a clemency will restore their right to buy firearms, so Obama never again gets to preach "keeping guns out of the hads of convicted fellons".
    No, a pardon would remove the conviction; clemency just commutes the sentence to time served but leaves the conviction intact.
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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    If he had any strength to his conviction, The President should pardon them rather than granting clemency.

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    These non-violent people should never have been locked up in the first place.

    What did that accomplish?
    It accomplished HUGE spending increases for the Bureau Of Prisons and the rest of the drug law enforcement bureaucracies.

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No, a pardon would remove the conviction; clemency just commutes the sentence to time served but leaves the conviction intact.
    A commuted sentence qualifies also: Restoration of Civil Rights | Florida Department of Corrections

    I personally have no problem at all with non-violent offenders having full access to firearms, but Obama does, and he's being a hypocrite again.

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Drug dealers are non-violent people? :

    Their convictions might not be for violence but they are most certainly violent people
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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders | ThinkProgress

    This was reported on Fox news, but I can't seem to find a MSM news report about it?

    On one hand it could be good. We shouldn't imprison victimless crimes. If people want to kill themselves doing drugs we should let them. 130k a year, I hear is the average cost to imprison someone. It would be cheaper to give them free drugs at outpatient clinics and let them rot in the streets.

    One problem with it is that it could add hundreds of thousands of instant Democrat voters to the rolls.
    Good. Nonviolent drug offenders. Jaywalkers deserve to be in prison more than they do.

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What color skin does the person you are picturing have?
    green, the stereotypical drug dealer is martian



    very violent

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What color skin does the person you are picturing have?
    The race card? For reals?

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    Re: President Obama Could Grant Clemency To Thousands Of Non-Violent Drug Offenders

    A few years back I had a guy working for me. From his teens to his 30's he was a drug user and spent quite a few years in the clink. I think he said 15 years total but broken up over many separate times.
    Anyway, he got to a point in his life where he said he had had enough and got clean and sober.
    Voluntarily, he decided to return to his places of incarceration to deliver speeches to inmates to try to help these folks get and stay clean.
    He studied his topics in depth and the foundation of his speeches was that there is no such thing as a non-violent or victimless drug crime. I can't remember the exact numbers but in a nutshell, for x amout of weed the was one murder, or 5 assaults, or so many acres of forest burned. One of his favorite sayings was "every bag of dope has someone's blood on it".
    So it may be true that the drug user didn't personally victimize anyone, it is hardly a victimless or non-violent crime.

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