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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    I can think of almost 400 million reasons why direct democracy is an awful idea.

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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I dont remember hearing anything along those lines.. Do you have anymore information along those lines?
    Yes...I don't remember the exact number but the agreement doesn't go into effect until they basically get enough electoral votes to actually drive the elections.
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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    These are the States that voted for the National Popular Vote Interstate agreement so far...

    1 Maryland 10 April 10, 2007
    2 New Jersey 14 January 13, 2008
    3 Illinois 20 April 7, 2008
    4 Hawaii 4 May 1, 2008
    5 Washington 12 April 28, 2009
    6 Massachusetts 11 August 4, 2010
    7 District of Columbia 3 December 7, 2010
    8 Vermont 3 April 22, 2011
    9 California 55 August 8, 2011
    10 Rhode Island 4 July 12, 2013
    11 New York 29 April 15, 2014

    Now class ... can anyone tell me what they immediately notice about this list?

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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    These are the States that voted for the National Popular Vote Interstate agreement so far...

    1 Maryland 10 April 10, 2007
    2 New Jersey 14 January 13, 2008
    3 Illinois 20 April 7, 2008
    4 Hawaii 4 May 1, 2008
    5 Washington 12 April 28, 2009
    6 Massachusetts 11 August 4, 2010
    7 District of Columbia 3 December 7, 2010
    8 Vermont 3 April 22, 2011
    9 California 55 August 8, 2011
    10 Rhode Island 4 July 12, 2013
    11 New York 29 April 15, 2014

    Now class ... can anyone tell me what they immediately notice about this list?
    That there is eleven of them.
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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We still arent a direct democracy even if we elected someone to represent us. If we elect someone to represent us that means we are a representative democracy. Even if we directly elected the POTUS what is the problem with that? I mean the founders were not perfect by anyway, why is it so shocking to get rid of something that is ineffective and outdated?
    Defending the Electoral College.

    Prove it's ineffective and outdated.
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    These are the States that voted for the National Popular Vote Interstate agreement so far...

    1 Maryland 10 April 10, 2007
    2 New Jersey 14 January 13, 2008
    3 Illinois 20 April 7, 2008
    4 Hawaii 4 May 1, 2008
    5 Washington 12 April 28, 2009
    6 Massachusetts 11 August 4, 2010
    7 District of Columbia 3 December 7, 2010
    8 Vermont 3 April 22, 2011
    9 California 55 August 8, 2011
    10 Rhode Island 4 July 12, 2013
    11 New York 29 April 15, 2014

    Now class ... can anyone tell me what they immediately notice about this list?
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Until a Conservative gets 51% of the vote, then you'll be begging for the electoral college to be applied.
    And you'll be screaming about the injustice of the Electoral College.


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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    On this thread, NY electoral votes will go to whichever candidate got the most individual votes nationally regardless of how NY voted.
    Would that include if the Republican or a ticket other than Democrat won the national vote? This is so gona backfire on those twits.
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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Democracy is simply a step toward totalitarianism. The sad part is that most people won't realize that we've stepped off that cliff even after we hit bottom.
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    Re: New York does away with Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We still arent a direct democracy even if we elected someone to represent us. If we elect someone to represent us that means we are a representative democracy.
    Even if we directly elected the POTUS what is the problem with that?
    I mean the founders were not perfect by anyway, why is it so shocking to get rid of something that is ineffective and outdated?
    Because the State representatives are close to the people they represent while the POTUS is supposed to represent everyone in every State, not just the large liberal population centers dependent on the Government as represented by the 11 states listed above.

    Granted, the guy we have now is doing that very thing but the Electoral College was an attempt to mitigate that.

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