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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't have any problem with this, actually. If you work for HP, you can't interview with the press as representing HP; and you'd better damned well not divulge potentially damaging or proprietary information to your buddy with the Washington Post. I'd think this stuff goes without saying really.

    What this means, as I read it, is that one can most certainly still share their information with WAPO, as an example, but he may lose his job. Not a bit unlike Corporate America.
    The difference being, corporate America is not beholden to the tax payers.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    People are still going to talk to the press. Talk to the press. No email trails. Information will still get out. Whether the leaked information serves us or hurts us rather depends, don't you think? As to firing them? Why the hell wouldn't they? If a grunt decides to be the next Snowden, I hope they fry his ass.

    If you're a cop, and you talk about an ongoing case to the press? You're in deep ****. Our intelligence community should be different??

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Well so much for bringing that new era of "transparency to our intelligence services" Clapper should of gotten the boot or resigned a long time ago for essentially lying under oath. Time for you to go bud. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Transparency =/= ignoring security clearance.

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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    People are still going to talk to the press.
    Sure.. Whats your point?

    Talk to the press. No email trails. Information will still get out. Whether the leaked information serves us or hurts us rather depends, don't you think? As to firing them? Why the hell wouldn't they? If a grunt decides to be the next Snowden, I hope they fry his ass.
    I dont see where you went with these questions or statements....


    If you're a cop, and you talk about an ongoing case to the press? You're in deep ****. Our intelligence community should be different??
    So you think if the media was given more access to the NSA then its going to up the floodgates to decalssification of everything and NSA employees talking to the press left and right about what ongoing spying activiies they are doing?


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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A lot of the classified information is essentially classified because its covering up wrongdoings done in the intelligence community....


    What that i think reports should have the right to interview who they want? To investigative reporting? Hell most journalists if they uncover something that will endanger lives dont print that ****. Its called journalistic integrity or the "journalistic code". But do I want a deep digging, good press corps. Absolutely. I guess that would make me from America?
    Where do you get the idea that reporters won't report on things that put lives at risk. Do you have any idea how many tactics, techniques and tools have been comprised by the media in the last 12 years of war. When that happens the ability for us in the military to do our jobs gets that much harder and more dangerous. Most reporters could care less as long as it gets them a headline.

    Unless it is a case of clear illegal activity it is not up to some lower level individual to decide if the information should be released. Often times they don't even know the whole picture and can't judge the consequences of their leak. As far as I am concerned all those folks who talk off the record because they are not authorized to talk to the press should be looking at jail time or the very least a loss of their clearance.
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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about all that, "transparency", that Obama promised?
    He'll take care of that right after he closes Gitmo.

    I agree with Maggie that this is all much ado about nothing.

    Then again I consider the subject. Clapper is the same moron who didn't even know about the terror attacks that were going on in England until Diane Sawyer had to bring him up to speed. The guy is as in touch with reality as a brick.

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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't have any problem with this, actually. If you work for HP, you can't interview with the press as representing HP; and you'd better damned well not divulge potentially damaging or proprietary information to your buddy with the Washington Post. I'd think this stuff goes without saying really.

    What this means, as I read it, is that one can most certainly still share their information with WAPO, as an example, but he may lose his job. Not a bit unlike Corporate America.
    The difference between the government and corporations is big. What this essentially does is make it a criminal offense subject to prosecution for telling the people the wrong doings of the government. If a person did the same for some corporation they'd be hailed as a hero and given protection against being prosecuted.
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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Where do you get the idea that reporters won't report on things that put lives at risk.
    The journalistic code.

    Do you have any idea how many tactics, techniques and tools have been comprised by the media in the last 12 years of war. When that happens the ability for us in the military to do our jobs gets that much harder and more dangerous. Most reporters could care less as long as it gets them a headline.
    So what. There is a thing called journalism. They are supposed to report on issues, the truth, and make a responsible narrative.


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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The journalistic code.


    So what. There is a thing called journalism. They are supposed to report on issues, the truth, and make a responsible narrative.
    Wait a minute here. In one sentience you are saying that the journalistic code will keep journalists from reporting things that will put peoples lives in danger but in the next say that they should be reporting on the things that put service men and women's lives at risk. You can't have it both ways.

    There is absolutely no reason that journalists should be reporting on the the tactics and secret equipment that the US is using to actively fight a war. Just like there is no justifiable reason reporters should be telling everyone when US troops are deploying to seize an airfield. But they did that anyway. Nothing like helping the enemy's of your country. Headlines are more important than the good of the country
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    Re: James Clapper Bans Intelligence Community From 'Unauthorized' Media Contacts

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The difference being, corporate America is not beholden to the tax payers.
    Neither is government. Businesses are beholden both to the government and to customers.

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