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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    yes they were doing their job which includes seeing if a group lied on their
    application which is a crime. In the non-right wing fantasy world of hate that is called doing their jobs.
    LOL !!

    What color is the sky in your world ?

    Lerner ADMITTED targeting Conservativesx and then lied about it being the fault of rogue agents in Cincinnati.

    After that she took the 5th so as to not INCRIMINATE herself 24 Consecutive times under oath.

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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Well the email to True to Vote from Cummings was not about the IRS, it was about Vote suppression. i posted a link yesterday.
    Then he investigated the wrong people.

    If the Dems were truly concerned about voter suppression they would start their investigations in Democrat districts and States all over the Country.

    Heyx one of the 8 DEMOCRAT politicians that nearly bankrupted Bell California got sentenced to 12 years this week.

    THAT was voter suppression.

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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Then he investigated the wrong people.

    If the Dems were truly concerned about voter suppression they would start their investigations in Democrat districts and States all over the Country.

    Heyx one of the 8 DEMOCRAT politicians that nearly bankrupted Bell California got sentenced to 12 years this week.

    THAT was voter suppression.
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    n 2013, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revealed that it had selected political groups applying for tax-exempt status for closer scrutiny based on their names or political themes. This led to wide condemnation of the agency and triggered several investigations, including a Federal Bureau of Investigation criminal probe ordered by United States Attorney General Eric Holder.[1][2] Initial reports described the selections as nearly exclusively of conservative groups with terms such as "Tea Party" in their names. Further investigation revealed that liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement had also triggered additional scrutiny.[3][4][5][6][7] The only denial of tax-exempt status by the IRS was to a progressive group.[8] The use of target lists continued through May 2013.[9]
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    The IRS used inappropriate criteria that identified for review Tea Party and other organizations applying for tax-exempt status based upon their names or policy positions instead of indications of potential political campaign intervention. Ineffective management: 1) allowed inappropriate criteria to be developed and stay in place for more than 18 months, 2) resulted in substantial delays in processing certain applications, and 3) allowed unnecessary information requests to be issued. Although the processing of some applications with potential significant political campaign intervention was started soon after receipt, no work was completed on the majority of these applications for 13 months.... For the 296 total political campaign intervention applications [reviewed in the audit] as of December 17, 2012, 108 had been approved, 28 were withdrawn by the applicant, none had been denied, and 160 were open from 206 to 1,138 calendar days (some for more than three years and crossing two election cycles).... Many organizations received requests for additional information from the IRS that included unnecessary, burdensome questions (e.g., lists of past and future donors).[16]
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How many applicants applied that were liberal or conservative doesn't really matter. What matters is how many conservative groups were targetted vs how many liberal groups were targetted.
    Not if the percentage of applicants was heavily tilted toward the conservative side.

    Again, I've never seen this reported. If 50 (say) TP groups applied, and 10 "liberal" groups applied, wouldn't it stand to reason when you're using ham-fisted BOLO tactics, that more conservative groups would be targeted?
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not if the percentage of applicants was heavily tilted toward the conservative side.

    Again, I've never seen this reported. If 50 (say) TP groups applied, and 10 "liberal" groups applied, wouldn't it stand to reason when you're using ham-fisted BOLO tactics, that more conservative groups would be targeted?
    Not if all 50 TP groups were targeted while only 1 liberal group was targeted. I'm talking about percentages here. Not total numbers which is what you're talking about. When talking about political groups if 90% of one group gets targeted while 10% of another group gets targeted then there is an obvious bias at work. I could understand some discrepency such as 55% vs 45%, but anything beyond that and things are obviously not right.
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Ever hear of a guy named Thomas Bayes?
    The statician guy? What about em?
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    So anyway, back to the OP. Why shouldnt entities that lie on documents be prosecuted?
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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    So anyway, back to the OP. Why shouldnt entities that lie on documents be prosecuted?

    Lol..... "Back to the Op " ?

    The OP is about Lois Lerner, the same Lois Lerner that first admitted to the targeting of Conservative groups and then lied about it being the fault of "rogue agents" in Cinci.

    It about the same Low life, Lying Liberal scumbag that went on to plead the 5th ammendment 24 Consecutive times under oath ( so as not to INCRIMINATE herself ) and her desire to prosecute these Conservative groups.

    You understand the context of this thread I hope ?

    The OPs NOT about prosecuting people that " lie on documents".

    If you want to start a thread about prosecuting people that do that then go for it.

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    Re: JW Obtains IRS Documents Showing Lerner in Contact With DOJ about Potential Prose

    So are you saying lying is ok? But discussing wehter to prosecute ornot is some sort of smking gun? I have a hard time understanding RW "proof" somtimes, well no pretty much all the time, sounds like noise. "The newly released IRS documents contain an email exchange between Lerner and Nikole C. Flax, then-Chief of Staff to then-Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller discussing plans to work with the DOJ to prosecute nonprofit groups that “lied” (Lerner’s quotation marks) about political activities."
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol..... "Back to the Op " ?

    The OP is about Lois Lerner, the same Lois Lerner that first admitted to the targeting of Conservative groups and then lied about it being the fault of "rogue agents" in Cinci.

    It about the same Low life, Lying Liberal scumbag that went on to plead the 5th ammendment 24 Consecutive times under oath ( so as not to INCRIMINATE herself ) and her desire to prosecute these Conservative groups.

    You understand the context of this thread I hope ?

    The OPs NOT about prosecuting people that " lie on documents".

    If you want to start a thread about prosecuting people that do that then go for it.
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