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Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

CRUE CAB said:
Yes. Their walk out was a protest of a paid speaker. They didn't have to go to begin with.
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Yup but they did to make a point against hate and bigotry.......
 
X Factor said:
Hmmm, interesting. If some of the faculty were dismissed over this (which'll never happen), do you think the same people who supported getting rid of the Mozilla guy and the Duck Dynasty dude would be equally supportive of the University's choice?
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No because you are comparing dynamite and cream cheese.

Mozilla's CEO dismissal was about the company moving forward. It was about a concern over this person's personal politics interfering with the bottom line.

The Duck Dynasty broohaha was more about the network and its parent getting perceived as giving a large platform to someone who said something offensive so they reacted quickly, assessed and brought him back. He was suspended pending a lot but mostly to see what advertisers do. In the world of cable entertainment, bigotry can be less of a liability than in business.

If the university were to fire the professors it would likely be in violation of their contract, since this did not bring shame or hurt on the university whose student body is more likely to agree with the protest. As someone who has worked in academia it is hard to get rid of a professor over a lot of stuff, this could be seen as an educational exercise.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Maybe people just don't agree with the lifestyle and its agenda. That is not hate.
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Much like it wasn't hate in 1960 when people just didn't agree with that black lifestyle and agenda.
 
darkrecess said:
Hello all,

I've been meaning to post this for a few days, just haven't gotten around to it.

I am a student at Sinclair Community College, where this took place. Yes, I was there. It was actually rather fun. LaBarbera was late, so we all took turns talking about why acceptance is better than vitriol and opposition. We stayed for a few minutes, then we just left.

Some claim that this was orchestrated by faculty, offering extra credit in their classes. For my part, none of my faculty members even mentioned this event was occuring, the only way I knew about was billboards around campus (like the one pictured in the 1st link below). I do know that a student advocacy group (the Traditional Values Club) invited LaBarbera to speak, and another advocacy group (the Silent Majority) were the ones who staged the protest. Both groups have faculty members.

The area where this happened was in the second floor of our library, we call it the Loggia. It can hold maybe 100-150 people, and as you can see in the picture, it was close to full when the event started, but after the exodus, maybe 20 people stayed to listen.

Mass Speech Walk Out: From Sinclair Community College To Peter LaBarbera With (No) Love

Another account (not mine):

The Dread Pirate Rodgers » How I Helped Ruin Peter LaBarbera's Day
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Seeing as how this is a debate forum, what is it, exactly, you would like debated?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Yea, any time you don't agree with the gay agenda or life style. You are accused of "hate". So using hate, bigotry, homophobe and all that has lost its punch.
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so you didn't read the link....thanks.
 
Looks like the 1st Amendment worked perfectly, both sides of the issue got to say their piece.
 
X Factor said:
Hmmm, interesting. If some of the faculty were dismissed over this (which'll never happen), do you think the same people who supported getting rid of the Mozilla guy and the Duck Dynasty dude would be equally supportive of the University's choice?
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Of course not. You're dealing with fringers when you bring those topics up. Hardline cons would support liberals being disciplined and Hardline libs support conservatives receiving it, but that's it. They're hypocrites.

In this case, liberals would've said "can the bigot" about Phil, and "free speech, free speech!" about the professor.
 
digsbe said:
What makes it rude to me is purposefully going in and distracting someone's speech via a walkout and showing disrespect to those who do want to be there for the intended purpose. It's just poor form. It would also be rude if they filled up the meeting area preventing others from attending only to walk out and waste that space. I'm all for protest, but I don't think this is a good way to do it. Not the worst way, I would just say it was rude.
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Can you give an example of how one would go about protesting the speaker at this event in a manner you would respect?

*bump*
 
X Factor said:
Hmmm, interesting. If some of the faculty were dismissed over this (which'll never happen), do you think the same people who supported getting rid of the Mozilla guy and the Duck Dynasty dude would be equally supportive of the University's choice?
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Why do you think it will never happen?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Yea, if it has to lean on another groups movement.
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Besides being ignorant, it's also demonstrably untrue. The American Revolution inspired a series of revolutions resulting in the independence of numerous colonies from Europe, and of course resulted in Democratic politics in Europe itself. And within the judicial system there is the concept of precedent. According to you, "inspiration" isn't a thing. I can only imagine Jerry liking this post is for lulz.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Ah yes, coat tail on the civil rights movement because yours is failing. Good try.
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Failing? Have you been paying attention?
Why are conservatives always against personal rights? They always come out for more government control in private lives.
 
Grand Mal said:
Failing? Have you been paying attention?
Why are conservatives always against personal rights? They always come out for more government control in private lives.
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Not all conservatives. Not even close.

I'm all for gay marriage, as are all of my conservative friends and my conservative husband. We personally don't give a damn who marries who. Gays, siblings, polygamists, whatever.
 
Grand Mal said:
Failing? Have you been paying attention?
Why are conservatives always against personal rights? They always come out for more government control in private lives.
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Against personal rights? How so?
 
Zyphlin said:
So....

A group of 20 or so people paid to have a guy come speak.

A bunch of people went "hur hur, this'll be fun to act like we're all there to listen to him then get out and leave. That'll show him!"

Then a group of 20 or so people got to listen to the person they paid to come speak to them.

Wow man. Way to go. Stick it to the man. :roll:
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I'm sure the speaker was so flustered by the walk out that he could barely cash his check.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I know exactly what the debate is about, its about lets see how much farther we can destroy any decent values in America.
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You said,

CRUE CAB said:
Against personal rights? How so?
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If you don't know which personal rights are being claimed to be infringed, then you're not qualified to talk about this.
 
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