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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It wasn't a waste of time, it let the Traditional Values Club and anyone who reads about the incident know that most students at that school do not support their anti-gay views. Now the TVC can move on to another group to pick on (like immigrants).
    Because I'm sure prior to this they had no clue that a large portion of the student body disagreed with them (Also, this in no way indicates that "most" students feel one way or another. This indicates that THOSE specific students did)

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Tempest in a teapot.
    Redneck, hillbilly, fundie, Bible thumper, cracker, split tails, geezer, loon, xenophobe, islamaphobe, and homophobe are not words of tolerance.

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    ....I think faculty doing it shows immaturity and poor judgment, and if I was president of the institution I would not allow it.
    Standing up to bigotry in a civil manner shows maturity and good judgement.

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Standing up to bigotry in a civil manner shows maturity and good judgement.
    Making a scene of yourself and being political on the job shows immaturity and poor judgment.

    Want to show support? Do it on your own time, your own terms, and your own property (or on public property).

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why do you think it will never happen?
    The University would be castigated as being anti-gay and they know that.
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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    He claimed the "Default setting" for EVERYTHING is legal. The post in question was talking about the "Right to Marriage", indicating he wasn't talking specifically about the default status of PEOPLE but rather the default status of actions.

    He suggested that the "liberal" view of things suggests that an action can only be made ILLEGAL if it harms another person.

    A felon owning a gun does not harm another person, no matter how violent he was in the past.....unless the claim is past action GUARANTEES future results, and even then, I'd still ask you or summerwind to explain how the act of OWNING a firearm can possibly harm anyone.
    I didn't take it to mean the same thing as you, but given how poorly worded it was I can understand how different people can have differing take-aways from it. I took it to mean that owning a gun is legal until the person proves that they are a harm, such as by being convicted of a crime. But again, it was poorly worded.

    However, even leaving that aside, what GM said wasn't true. The idea that the only things that should be made illegal are things that cause others harm is not a liberal position; It's more of a libertarian position. Liberals tend to have a more balanced view and do support when the govt makes laws, not just to protect peoples' rights, but also to promote the general welfare
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Because I'm sure prior to this they had no clue that a large portion of the student body disagreed with them (Also, this in no way indicates that "most" students feel one way or another. This indicates that THOSE specific students did)
    It's not just the students who attend and support the speaker who could use some info about their lack of support. It also sends a message to those outside of the school
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The University would be castigated as being anti-gay and they know that.
    ...and that's not the image they want to project?

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Making a scene of yourself and being political on the job shows immaturity and poor judgment.

    Want to show support? Do it on your own time, your own terms, and your own property (or on public property).
    Do we know that anyone was on the clock and trespassing during the incident? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions.

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    Re: Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You're just all about making ignorant, incorrect, broad statements aren't you?
    Aahhh, I love irony.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Conservatives are hardly ALWAYS against personal rights. You have conservatives on this very thread who support gay marriage (as just one example).
    Conservatives (disclaimer- 'in my experience') are behind every effort to reduce the liberties of the individual. Conservatives support the 'war on drugs' that has turned the US into the most incarcerated nation in the world- well, maybe some third-world theocratic dictatorship might contest the crown but whatever. Conservatives support the power of the police over the rights of the citizen. If you've ever heard anyone say, "What are you afraid of if you're not doing anything wrong?" it was a conservative speaking. Conservatives support mandatory sentencing. Conservatives support suppression of gay rights- yes, I know, some don't and I was corrected by one here but I'm guessing those are the few conservatives who don't also identify as Christian. That's another thing- conservatism has that taint of religion about it. A few anomalies aside, of course, as always. Conservatives created big government and perpetuate the monster. Here in Canada, when the Liberal Party was in power we had eight or nine years of surplus federal budgets. Since the Conservative Party has formed the government we're back in the red- deficit budget after deficit budget. Big government. Trust me, if you find, in any area of your life where someone is taking steps that will limit your freedom, it's probably a conservative.
    As an aside, I've noticed here that some who express liberal values identify as conservative. There seems to be some confusion among Americans about definitions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Broad absolute claims are rarely accurate when you're dealing with a group as large as something like an entire major political ideology.
    It depends on the claimant, and the claim. If I'm describing a large group, of course I'm using generalities. If my 'broad claims' are 75% and my absolutes 51%, I call myself accurate. Don't ask me to name names.
    Last edited by Grand Mal; 04-16-14 at 11:00 PM.
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