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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Showing the flag
    Ever since Russian armed forces invaded and annexed the Ukrainian province of Crimea last month, the U.S. government has struggled to find an appropriate response. Trade sanctions and visa freezes on Russian government officials could punish Russia for what it's done in Crimea. But what could the U.S. do to deter further aggression?

    This week, it appears the Obama administration hit upon its solution. It took the USS Donald Cook and sent it to Russia. Armed with new Standard Missile-3 IB weaponry from Raytheon (NYSE: RTN ) , the Cook boasts a robust version of Lockheed Martin's (NYSE: LMT ) Aegis ballistic missile defense system capable of shooting down supersonic, high-trajectory missiles such as Russia uses to carry its nuclear warheads. The warship was modified for ballistic missile defense (BMD) duty as part of a $22 billion project to build shipborne and land-based missile defense stations to protect Europe from Iranian long-range missiles. But just as President Putin predicted, it appears to have use in countering Russian threats as well.



    Departing its new base in Spain, the Cook is now en route to the Black Sea, where it will "show the flag" off the Ukrainian and Russian coasts -- a concrete demonstration to President Putin of how aggression in Crimea could bring about the very thing he fears: U.S. ballistic missile defenses set up right next to the Russian border.

    What this move does show us, though, is that the $22 billion ballistic missile defense system has wider application than it was initially planned for. It can help to contain the threat of a future Iranian nuclear missile and it can help to disarm Russia's nuclear arsenal as well.....snip~

    America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters. President Putin Presumably Not Pleased.


    Our ship arrived there yesterday. Now it will sit off the Coast of the Ukraine. Think we have Putin's attention now? What say ye?
    Well, I guess it would have his attention if Putin said, "Oh snap!! I was going to fire off a few nuclear missiles. Now I can't." I doubt it made any difference to him actually. Just a show of support, and he already knew that.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I don't recall where in Russia's actions against Ukraine that having a missile shield would have helped.
    But the idea that we can be friends has its issues as well. That's my point.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think that the Russians have some pretty sophisticated equipment and probably one silent sub just sitting quietly to defend against just such a weapon --
    Just remember the US and some NATO forces have already captured the acoustic signatures of Russian subs. Who's to say there aren't NATO hunter killer submarines there as well?

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Just remember the US and some NATO forces have already captured the acoustic signatures of Russian subs. Who's to say there aren't NATO hunter killer submarines there as well?
    Is there something on that IC? Maybe older subs.....not anything new. Which was one of our concerns.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Is there something on that IC? Maybe older subs.....not anything new. Which was one of our concerns.
    The Cook can carry an ASW helicopter, the UH-60B, and it's very effective. I doubt it entered the Black Sea without one. The French have an intelligence gathering frigate or something on that order accompanying the Cook. The Cook is not alone, and the Bosporus is sufficiently deep for a sub to pass through submerged. The Russians won't mess with the Cook too much.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Is there something on that IC? Maybe older subs.....not anything new. Which was one of our concerns.
    If you mean the Borei class machines - they're not out yet.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, I guess it would have his attention if Putin said, "Oh snap!! I was going to fire off a few nuclear missiles. Now I can't." I doubt it made any difference to him actually. Just a show of support, and he already knew that.
    Mornin' Maggie. Well Putin was complaining when we sent the 4 destroyers to Spain to act as Missile defense from Iran. Not that I think he is worried when he already has destroyers and more ships in the vicinity than what we and NATO has.





    File this story under the rubric: "Be careful what you wish for." When the U.S. guided missile destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) departed Norfolk Naval Base to take up station at the Spanish naval base in Rota two months ago, it set off alarm bells in Moscow.

    Accusing the U.S. of attempting to set up a "strategic offensive potential" in Europe, Russian President Putin loudly condemned the move. U.S. officials calmly explained that the Cook, and its sister ships USS Ross (DDG-71), USS Carney (DDG-64), and USS Porter (DDG-78), were headed to Spain to set up a missile shield against the Iranian missile threat -- and posed no threat to Russia. But Russian State Duma foreign affairs committee Chairman Alexei Pushkov declared this explanation "fake."

    In the Russians' view, you see, the presence of a fleet of U.S. destroyers in Europe, armed with a version of the Aegis missile defense system tweaked to shoot down ballistic missiles, is a threat aimed squarely at Russia's nuclear arsenal.....snip~

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    The problem for Russia is that they can't know exactly what armaments these destroyers are carrying. They can carry not only the missile interceptors, but also a boat load (90) of Tomahawks, as well. We offer them as defensive platforms, but they're quite capable of being very nasty offensive platforms as well.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    This has to be the most serious message sent to Putin yet.

    Just wish we Europeans were more united with the States on this. I really hope there are more than just the one French warship out there with the Americans.

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    Re: America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters.....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Heh. What a good excuse for Biden to just stay there. Could be a new home for him. Maybe we should send Carter too.
    Mornin' HB. Well you know Joe.....he is going over there to give some re-assurance to the Ukrainian leaders. I don't think he will be going around any areas that predominantly Pro Russian.

    I figure if ......then Joe will fire off a warning shot or two with a shotgun.

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