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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    The Dems screw the unions, then unions screw the Dems; poetic justice, either way.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Dems screw the unions, then unions screw the Dems; poetic justice, either way.
    Absolutely.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    More meaningless twaddle.
    That is unfair. Unions have the right, and the responsibility, to express the sentiment of their members. If that goes for twaddle, we are in disagreement.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    That is unfair. Unions have the right, and the responsibility, to express the sentiment of their members. If that goes for twaddle, we are in disagreement.
    I should have quoted. I was referring more to the nonsensical responses from some of our esteemed members than the general premise of the thread.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I should have quoted. I was referring more to the nonsensical responses from some of our esteemed members than the general premise of the thread.
    I reread all the posts and each poster before you posted on the subject and without the usual hyperbole you might be referencing from other threads. Also, by putting your words in quotes, whose words would you be quoting?

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

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    The only thing that bothers me is that assholes keep voting in Dems and Reps and expecting different results. Why do you think most elections aren't about what a candidate can DO, it's how bad the other candidate is? And when the candidates DO say what they are going to do, it's usually a bunch of lies.
    Well, I think the issue is the entrenched party leaders in Washington. Everyone votes for the candidate that they believe will best represent them, but after a year or so in Washington they all change. The Reids and Boehners and McConnels and Pelosis all need to go.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I reread all the posts and each poster before you posted on the subject and without the usual hyperbole you might be referencing from other threads. Also, by putting your words in quotes, whose words would you be quoting?
    I'd rather not name names, so I'll PM you with who I was talking about.
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I reread all the posts and each poster before you posted on the subject and without the usual hyperbole you might be referencing from other threads. Also, by putting your words in quotes, whose words would you be quoting?
    I figured he was just boiling his own post down to its essence.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As far as the lies, money and muckraking you speak of, I only see it in GOP primaries right now, not the DEMs.
    This could be the best year yet for GOP primaries since 2006.
    In the 2014 general election, you have to admit the GOP/Kochs started that way early last year .
    I think all the nasty attack ads in 2012 ran be fellow Republicans against Romney hurt him more in the long run than the ads ran by Obama in the swing states. A lot of Republicans have told me while Romney was trying to win the nomination, Obama and team were defining him in the swing states which Romney couldn't respond to.

    But left unsaid about them was all the nasty stuff going on between the Republicans themselves. Romney came out of the primaries with a very high unfavorable rating, especially among independents. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like Nationwide 40% viewed him favorable, 50% unfavorable. But independents viewed him worse than those numbers. Romney was able to bring it his favorable ratings up to a 44/44 tie, but could never get his favorable to overtake his unfavorable. Meanwhile, Obama wasn't that hot either, finishing up at something like 51/45. But it was enough to get the indies to split their vote 50-50 and with the larger Democratic base, the rest is history as they say.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We have 330 million people and need to get a grasp on an energy plan as part of an overhaul of our infrastructure.
    What will energy be like for your grands when they are your age, about 2075 huh?

    I'll be out there in another month and will give you first-hand reporting from the locals .
    We could become self sufficient in energy if we had the will. Right now we are buying around 750 billion worth of overseas oil. That money spent is providing money, jobs, helping foreign economies, not ours. It also is 75% or our trade deficit with the world which doesn't get any attention. Everyone follows the national deficit, but not the trade deficit which is in my opinion anyway, almost equally important.

    I always thought one could come up with a happy medium between the environmentalist regulation and energy production. I am probably wrong on that, but there is always a middle way. In today's political charged atmosphere, that road isn't travel at all.

    I will look forward to your updates from the west. The west is unique, the federal government owns most of the land out there, not so back here in the east.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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