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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since I said nothing of the kind, you're now keeping up with how you've posted in all your threads .
    Yeah, its called discussing what the OP is about and not everything else Nimby brings up to deflect the bad news on, about, or for Obama.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    80% of who's who, I think you better look again. Only one out of six national re-known prognostacators predicts a Republican take over of the senate. I would say the odds are closer to 20% than 80%.

    1 Professional Prognosticators Senate predictions as of 11 April Current 55 Democratic held seats 45 Republican held seats.
    Charlie Cook 47 Democratic 46 Republican: Tossups (5 Democratic held seats) Alaska, Arkansas, Louisiana, Michigan, and North Carolina. (2 Reublican held seats) Georgia and Kentucky (Democrat to Republican West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

    For the Republicans to take control of the senate according to Cook, they must retain Georgia and Kentucky and win 3 of the Democratic held seats he lists as tossups.


    EP 51 Republican 49 Democratic: No toss ups (Democrat to Republican West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Arkansas, North Carolina, Michigan) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

    EP bluntly says at this time the Republicans will take control of the senate.


    Nate Silver 538, 49 Republican 48 Democratic: Tossups (3 Democratic held seats Alaska, Louisiana, and North Carolina. (Democrat to Republican Arkansas, Montana, South Dakota, West Virginia). (No Republican to Democratic seats.)

    Nate says the Republican’s must win 2 of the three seats he lists as tossups. Nate and Cook are basically saying the same thing.

    RCP 50 Republican 50 Democrat (Democrat to Republican, Alaska, Arkansas, Louisiana, Montana, South Dakota, West Virginia) (Republican to Democrat, Kentucky)

    RCP no toss up predicts a tie in the senate. With VP Biden providing the tie breaking vote, the senate remains Democratic.

    Rothenberg 50 Democrat 49 Republican: Tossup (1 Democratic held seat) Louisiana (Democrat to Republican, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Arkansas) (No Republican to Democrat seats)

    For Stuart Rothenberg the Democrats are a lock to retain control of the senate. Even if Louisiana goes Republican, it would result in a 50-50 tie with Vice President Biden casting the deciding votes thus enabling the Democrats to retain their control.

    Sabato 48 Democrat 49 Republican: 3 Tossups (3 Democratic Held seats) Alaska, North Carolina, Louisiana (Democratic to Republican, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Arkansas) (No Republican to Democratic seats)

    It comes down for the Republicans to win 2 of the 3 tossup seats if they are to gain control of the senate per Larry Sabato.

    House of Representatives: Currently 234 Republican 201 Democrat. 218 seats needed for a majority.

    Cook: Republicans 230, Democrat 188 Tossups 4 Republican held seats, 13 Democratic held seats
    EP: Republicans 234, Democrat 201 no Tossups
    Silver: No House predictions as of yet.
    RCP: Republicans 232, Democrat 187 Tossups 3 Republican held seats, 13 Democratic held seats
    Rothenberg: Republicans 227, Democrat 192 Tossups 7 Republican held seats, 9 Democratic held seats
    Sabato: Republican 230, Democrat 195 10 Tossups 4 Republican held seats, 6 Democratic held seats.

    If you look at these numbers, the Republicans will probably gain 4-8 seats.


    I think I gave you the Link that showed the 80% already.....and they didn't mention who they were. Either way I would have to look for it as it was up. I do recall that it was from the Signal.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since I said nothing of the kind, you're now keeping up with how you've posted in all your threads .
    I got to hit the hay, going out to the Wat first thing in the AM to celebrate Songkron. But here is a most interesting poll about what Americans think of the Federal Government having the consent of the Governed

    19% Think Federal Government Has Consent of the Governed - Rasmussen Reports™

    Perhaps you can get back with me tomorrow.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think I gave you the Link that showed the 80% already.....and they didn't mention who they were. Either way I would have to look for it as it was up. I do recall that it was from the Signal.
    It's no biggie. This far out without names attached to each race it is basically a crap shoot. Hunches.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Interesting to me is that 59% of GOP voters say Republicans in Congress are out of touch with the Party's base.
    My question: What is the party's base ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I got to hit the hay, going out to the Wat first thing in the AM to celebrate Songkron. But here is a most interesting poll about what Americans think of the Federal Government having the consent of the Governed

    19% Think Federal Government Has Consent of the Governed - Rasmussen Reports™

    Perhaps you can get back with me tomorrow.
    Last edited by NIMBY; 04-13-14 at 09:43 PM.
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    How is the Union threatening retribution bad news for Obama?
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah,
    its called discussing what the OP is about and not everything else Nimby brings up to deflect the bad news on, about, or for Obama.
    Are you even aware there is a liberal DEM enviro billionaire threatening to do the opposite to these same DEM candidates who go for KXL?
    Of course you are, NOW !
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Interesting to me is that 59% of GOP voters say Republicans in Congress are out of touch with the Party's base.
    My question: What is the party's base ?
    I have two thoughts on that, 1. Either their base thinks it is the Tea Party folks that is out of whack or 2. it is the establishment Republicans that is out of whack. Either way it is a huge chunk of the GOP is unhappy.

    No thoughts on why only 19% of Americans that think the federal government has the consent of the Governed? I think it is because most Americans think the federal government has ceased to represent them and now represents only political parties and those with money, huge money donors, corporations, special interests, lobbyist, etc.

    Being it was just a short blurp, who knows. But I think that is very significant. It is one of these polls done and lost to the world. But it may be one of the most important polls ever taken. The Federal Government lost the trust of the American people back in the early 60's, the last two president's which served when the majority of Americans trusted their government was IKE and JFK. I could really go into this, but no need. I think it would be a waste of time. What will happen will happen. Look at Nevada.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How is the Union threatening retribution bad news for Obama?

    Are you even aware there is a liberal DEM enviro billionaire threatening to do the opposite to these same DEM candidates who go for KXL?
    Of course you are, NOW !

    From the very first post where they talk about it.....and I am sure you can figure out the part about their support for Team O and the Demos.


    The State Department is wrapping up its national interest determination of the project. That is expected to end by early May, allowing Kerry to send his recommendation over to the White House.

    Last month, the North America's Building Trades Union and LIUNA met with the American Petroleum Institute to press Obama on approval of the pipeline, linking the delay to broader anger at the administration within the labor movement.

    "Our anger doesn't just stop with Keystone XL," O'Sullivan told The Hill in March. "We are extremely angry about the Affordable Care Act and the fact that there is 12.8 percent unemployment in construction.".....snip~

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    No thoughts on why only 19% of Americans that think the federal government has the consent of the Governed? I think it is because most Americans think the federal government has ceased to represent them and now represents only political parties and those with money, huge money donors, corporations, special interests, lobbyist, etc.
    How many times have we seen Americans of all leans think the federal government this and that until their part of the Nation is hit by a Natural disaster?
    We did see Oklahoma tornado politicians last year say they wanted pay-fors, but you know which CDs and gubmit programs they wanted them from.
    We also saw how Cantor turned his back on GOP citizens in Joplin, MO when they lost 180 dead
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Being it was just a short blurp, who knows. But I think that is very significant. It is one of these polls done and lost to the world. But it may be one of the most important polls ever taken. The Federal Government lost the trust of the American people back in the early 60's, the last two president's which served when the majority of Americans trusted their government was IKE and JFK. I could really go into this, but no need. I think it would be a waste of time. What will happen will happen. Look at Nevada.
    What about Nevada?
    Do you support law-breakers hiding behind the faux skirt of the Constitution?
    It's always been about not paying taxes.
    I'm sure you agree with this free-loader.
    Check out how much water is wasted in this county to Mormon-owned golf courses in the desert .
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