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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Hi Pero - maybe they're looking at primary challenges. But there's really no reason for unions not to support Republicans, particularly unions that are not wasting vast sums of union dues on Democrat politics.
    What we're talking is the union heads supporting the Democrats and as you say, expanding a lot of money to the Democrats. We are not talking about how the union members vote. I seen figure in which up to 40% or so union members support the Republicans. But a union head, I think you have to go back to Nixon to find the last time a major union head supported a Republican.
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Evening Pero. What if it means.....not coming out to the polls for them. Or doing what the Tea Party is and backing some other Democrat instead of their incumbent?
    I don't know. It is very possible that it could mean a primary challenge for some of these Democrats. Whether some of the union vote stays home for the general or even votes for the Republican remains to be seen. If so it could be felt at the ballot box in such key states a Michigan which the race is close.
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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know. It is very possible that it could mean a primary challenge for some of these Democrats. Whether some of the union vote stays home for the general or even votes for the Republican remains to be seen. If so it could be felt at the ballot box in such key states a Michigan which the race is close.
    Yeah, I haven't seen any articles on this matter wherein the Unions talk about supporting the Repubs on this? Maybe on the Keystone for those impacted directly. That is some tangent the left ran with while making **** up.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, I haven't seen any articles on this matter wherein the Unions talk about supporting the Repubs on this? Maybe on the Keystone for those impacted directly. That is some tangent the left ran with while making **** up.
    This issue is probably putting the president and quite a lot of Democrats between a rock and a hard place. To appease the environmentalist, greens, etc, they expect the president to disapprove Keystone. A lot of the union types want the good paying jobs and want the president to approve it and approve it now. I think Obama is trying to walk a tightrope here. He is delaying and delaying his decision afraid if he says yes or no, it may effect some of the vote come November. But then there is always the chance it makes both sides mad and a lot of them stay home. It is like I said, we will have to wait and see.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    This issue is probably putting the president and quite a lot of Democrats between a rock and a hard place. To appease the environmentalist, greens, etc, they expect the president to disapprove Keystone. A lot of the union types want the good paying jobs and want the president to approve it and approve it now. I think Obama is trying to walk a tightrope here. He is delaying and delaying his decision afraid if he says yes or no, it may effect some of the vote come November. But then there is always the chance it makes both sides mad and a lot of them stay home. It is like I said, we will have to wait and see.
    Oh no doubt.....but at least we know who they are targeting and that it isn't just some useless rhetoric.....like the Libs around here try and play it. You have to remember the left here......does all they can to avoid whatever makes Obama and Team O look bad. Deflect, avoid, and cover over as much as they can. Which doesn't even take into consideration all the down playing they do.

    Independents and those from the Right should always be prepared to showcase the Left for exactly what they say and are about. At all times and anytime.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And so you think Unions are going to vote Republican with all the anti-Union speak from the right? You're joking right?
    Unions are basically driven by economics, so why not? At the point where big government trumps big business, big labor will side wherever their best interests are.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh no doubt.....but at least we know who they are targeting and that it isn't just some useless rhetoric.....like the Libs around here try and play it. You have to remember the left here......does all they can to avoid whatever makes Obama and Team O look bad. Deflect, avoid, and cover over as much as they can. Which doesn't even take into consideration all the down playing they do.

    Independents and those from the Right should always be prepared to showcase the Left for exactly what they say and are about. At all times and anytime.
    I think come November it will all depend where the Keystone and perhaps the ACA stands as hot issues on their list. Whether a no or non-action on keystone over rides other union issues these folks usually favor. They have to weigh these issues with other issues and then make up their minds. Keystone may be important to them and it may not, as a hot issue, a vote deciding issue. Same with the ACA.

    I may be for keystone, but if the Republican candidates are against three, four or more other issues I deem important to me, those other issue will probably over ride keystone. Keep in mind for political pundits every issue is a game changer, but in reality you are probably talking about a point of two percentage wise in any election. But a point or two taken from Landrieu or Pryor and given to Cassidy and Cotton, it may mean the difference between victory or defeat in those two states. The races are that close. Other states a point or two is just chicken feed.

    As I say, time will tell.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This is great news......the Big Unions are going after the Demos and Obama. Not only for this pipeline.....but as told to the Hill, it includes O-care. Now that is fantastic. Democrats vs Democrats......all during this upcoming election. Cause by Obama and his delays over this matter too.


    A top building trades union is launching a midterm-election assault on House Democrats who oppose construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline.



    A letter distributed Friday by the Laborers' International Union of North America (LIUNA) to the districts of 27 House Democrats calls for union members to make sure their representative "feels the power and the fury of LIUNA this November."

    "For every action, there is a reaction, and our reaction to this frontal assault on our way of life needs to be loud and clear. If you do not stand with us, we sure as hell will not stand with you," O'Sullivan wrote, noting the jobs Keystone would create for union members.

    LIUNA also sent letters to the House Democrats directly, dangling the 2014 election threat in front of each member. The Democrats on LIUNA’s hit list include Reps. Frank Pallone Jr. (N.J.), Anna Eshoo (Calif.), Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.) and Tim Ryan (Ohio).

    The push by LIUNA underscores the backlash President Obama might face in November if he punts a decision on the oil-sands pipeline past the election. The decision pins Obama between different factions in the Democratic base.

    The State Department is wrapping up its national interest determination of the project. That is expected to end by early May, allowing Kerry to send his recommendation over to the White House.

    Last month, the North America's Building Trades Union and LIUNA met with the American Petroleum Institute to press Obama on approval of the pipeline, linking the delay to broader anger at the administration within the labor movement.

    "Our anger doesn't just stop with Keystone XL," O'Sullivan told The Hill in March. "We are extremely angry about the Affordable Care Act and the fact that there is 12.8 percent unemployment in construction.".....snip~

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    Perfect timing. Obama has spent the last 5 years saying jobs were his #1 priority-and yet his green jobs, shovel ready jobs, lost jobs from Obamacare, etc have not delivered.

    I think its pretty clear that he's full of it at this point. I expect more of this to come-the dems are really a mob of different groups with very different interests, and frankly I think they have less in common amongst themselves than conservatives do.

    This is only the beginning, the dems are really going to take a beating this fall.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think come November it will all depend where the Keystone and perhaps the ACA stands as hot issues on their list. Whether a no or non-action on keystone over rides other union issues these folks usually favor. They have to weigh these issues with other issues and then make up their minds. Keystone may be important to them and it may not, as a hot issue, a vote deciding issue. Same with the ACA.

    I may be for keystone, but if the Republican candidates are against three, four or more other issues I deem important to me, those other issue will probably over ride keystone. Keep in mind for political pundits every issue is a game changer, but in reality you are probably talking about a point of two percentage wise in any election. But a point or two taken from Landrieu or Pryor and given to Cassidy and Cotton, it may mean the difference between victory or defeat in those two states. The races are that close. Other states a point or two is just chicken feed.

    As I say, time will tell.

    Well its not just here Pero.....all one need do is look at Illinois and the Pension reform.....its the Demos that have stolen money from their Unions and it is the Demos themselves screwing over the Teachers Unions and City and State Workers. Sure it isn't going change anything politically for Chicago and Illinois.....but it does highlight that Unions will be taking it to the Demos for stealing their money.

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    Re: Union threatens Retribution for House Dems Opposing Keystone.....

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Perfect timing. Obama has spent the last 5 years saying jobs were his #1 priority-and yet his green jobs, shovel ready jobs, lost jobs from Obamacare, etc have not delivered.

    I think its pretty clear that he's full of it at this point. I expect more of this to come-the dems are really a mob of different groups with very different interests, and frankly I think they have less in common amongst themselves than conservatives do.

    This is only the beginning, the dems are really going to take a beating this fall.

    Oh they are and that's a fact.....but then my point is, the Right cannot stop just because they win. They need to keep taking it to the Democrats until we destroy their party and make all that associate to it.....a Pariah and leech to the Country.

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