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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Sure...just like I'm not owed a companies financial information or owed information on a car I'm about to buy but it sure does help markets operate.
    So then, the government shouldn't force the issue. What makes markets operate to your liking is immaterial.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    This is nothing but some more class warfare to drum up hostile feelings for the mid-term. Political horse ****.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Compensation does not equate salary.
    You're splitting hairs to avoid admitting that you were wrong in stating that Title VII didn't address compensation. sad....
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    You're splitting hairs to avoid admitting that you were wrong in stating that Title VII didn't address compensation. sad....
    This bill is about salary...


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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That information is available.

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    So....what's the big deal then? This site depends on surveys from HR departments. Why exactly is it a bad thing that workers have better data?
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So then, the government shouldn't force the issue. What makes markets operate to your liking is immaterial.
    Actually it's not to my liking it's pretty much a requirement for a competitive market. Asymmetric information is bad. Equal information between both parties is good. Hence...why very pro-market economist like Milton Friedman typically support financial reporting.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This bill is about salary...
    Which is part of compensation. You're trying to argue that a bill about squares doesn't apply to rectangles.

    Why don't you simply admit that you were wrong when you said that Title VII wasn't about pay?? It's easy to do. You just say something along the lines of: "Huh, I never noticed that part before. I guess I was wrong." It's how adults deal with the mistakes they make. You admit that you were wrong and then make adjustments to avoid making the same mistake again.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No they are not.
    Yes, they are, as you have been shown.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually it's not to my liking it's pretty much a requirement for a competitive market. Asymmetric information is bad. Equal information between both parties is good. Hence...why very pro-market economist like Milton Friedman typically support financial reporting.
    I don't really care what Milton Friedman thought. He is largely responsible for the income tax and monetary systems we have today, and for that, I hope he is burning in hell.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    This issue annoys me because its so difficult to find good information on. On one hand, people who insist this is a serious problem points to studies which claim that women generally make less but fail to test for extraneous factors like hours worked. One study showed that companies were paying women 20% less but didn't even bother to check what positions the women were actually working. I supposed when you are obsessed with finding injustice anywhere you can those types of sloppy studies will be adequate for you.

    On the other hand, the people who claim this is a non-issue often make statements with no basis, claiming this definitely exists because of fewer hours worked and position without showing that it's not actually bias that's creating the problem. This seems to stem from wanting to believe that prejudice could not exist in modern day.

    If you are confident of your position on this issue, I'd like to ask that you give me your best source for it, as my personal research has failed to turn up anything useful.

    I've not been following this bill too closely. How did this bill screw over employers, aside from those who would engage in discriminatory pay practices?
    How can you not see how a bunch of additional documentation requirements would have a negative impact on all employers? Depending on who the employer is, having to keep track of all of this can become an extreme burden.
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