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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    given it was a pure party line vote its most likely designed to create money or advantages for DNC allies and designed to hurt GOP allies
    Yeah, if the GOP votes for something, it's because they're patriotic and trying to do what's best for the American people...but if the Dems vote for something, well, THAT automatically means that their motives were purely mercenary.

    And of course it's pure tyranny to require that women get paid equal wages for equal work.

    Actually, that's one thing that I loved about the military - everyone pretty much knew what everyone else was making. Equal pay for equal work was never an issue. But I forget - the military's a liberal bastion out to destroy conservative America....
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so they should screw over employers to take the issue away from the deems

    good thinking there
    How are they screwing over employers? Maybe if you can tell me how that's happening I could respond. If we're in a world where equal access to information between two parties (employers/labor) is screwing over employees it shows you how broke our labor markets are.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so they should screw over employers to take the issue away from the deems

    good thinking there
    I've not been following this bill too closely. How did this bill screw over employers, aside from those who would engage in discriminatory pay practices?

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I've not been following this bill too closely. How did this bill screw over employers, aside from those who would engage in discriminatory pay practices?
    anything that gives more ability for plaintiffs to sue hurts employers. bookkeeping requirements are very expensive



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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    one has to be very naive to think that is the main goal of this idiotic bill
    Then tell US TD what was the "main purpose"?


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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anything that gives more ability for plaintiffs to sue hurts employers. bookkeeping requirements are very expensive
    How does this bill give more opportunity to sue, if pay practices are fair? It's a genuine question. If anything, wouldn't public knowledge give plaintiffs LESS reason to sue, assuming pay practices are equal?

    I'm not seeing your logic. And as far as bookkeeping requirements, what additional bookkeeping would be necessary? Don't businesses already keep books?

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    How does this bill give more opportunity to sue, if pay practices are fair? It's a genuine question. I'm not seeing your logic. And as far as bookkeeping requirements, what additional bookkeeping would be necessary? Don't businesses already keep books?
    if there is discrimination, there is already laws to sue under. its duplicative. why aren't Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski-who almost always support "pro woman" issues not supporting this?



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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    What someone is paid is up to the parties in play, not legislators. You do not have a right to equal pay from private commerce.

    That is of course ignoring that this entire bill is based on a myth.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if there is discrimination, there is already laws to sue under.
    I agree. But my understanding of this bill is that it's not giving more people the ability to sue, but rather making public knowledge about pay practices. It also claims to prevent an employer from dismissing an employee for discussing wage.

    So, again, how is this a problem for employers, if they are not engaging in discriminatory pay practices? I'm not trying to be adversarial here, I'm just not seeing your logic. It seems you're arguing against something this bill doesn't try to do.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Then tell US TD what was the "main purpose"?
    The dems playing to the lawyer money lobby again and throwing an useless bone to women voters.

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