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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Not really. Oh, I get the argument you're trying to present, but I don't agree my working to educate your children means I should have less privacy than you. Or I guess it would be more appropriate to say I don't see why working in the private sector should afford you more privacy than me.

    And let's be honest, I don't work for you. I work for my employer. My employer is the school district.

    At first it bothered me, but then I realized it's not that big of a deal. So what if you can see how much I make? Why does it matter? Why should I care?
    I worked for two "public" agencies. The Military and the Federal Reserve Bank. I think that the requirements of both those jobs were fair. I was not allowed to be in uniform while attending a partisan political event and I wasn't allow to run for a partisan political office or support one while identifying myself as a FRB employee. Those seem like reasonable and needed restrictions-I worked for the people, all the people, and it ruins that concept if I showed political favoritism. Wish that all public employees had that same integrity.

    There is something different about working for the public. And if you aren't working for the public, the school board is.

    I agree with your sentiments that "At first it bothered me" and that some people should not have more privacy than others. It would bother me if my salary was publicized, it would help criminals in determining who to rob or identity to steal, and it would put me on unequal footing with people who don't draw a salary and therefore have greater financial privacy. (Such as investors, landlords, pensioners, etc.)

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't agree what you posted would happen.
    I'm going to make a wild guess here and that is that when you wrote the above you pictured how you would react in the situation and then attributed your reaction to the populace at large. Now imagine the reaction of the most stupid and strident feminists with the least common sense imaginable and how this perpetual troublemaker would react. That type of woman exists out there somewhere. She's far out on the margin but after she acts then other women see how the drama has played out and the margin moves inward slightly. Rinse and repeat.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    I think it's weird that someone would think it should be legal to fire an employee for discussing their salary with someone.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have idea why they really blocked it, or are you going to stick with, "Conservatives are all racists/sexists/homophobes
    What the typical BS "oh its anti business"?


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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What the typical BS "oh its anti business"?
    How many more equal pay bills do you think we need?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many more equal pay bills do you think we need?
    Well saying there is clearly a pay gap.... And that we dont have equal pay bills....


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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well saying there is clearly a pay gap.... And that we dont have equal pay bills....
    Yeah, we do. Obama signed one into law already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, we do. Obama signed one into law already.

    Nope. Nope. Nope.


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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So you see no difference in me as an individual posting my data and everyone's data being available?
    In both instances, your data is public. Apparently your beliefs are only applicable when everyone is forced to participate. Also, since you don't recognize any flaws in your idea, you want everyone to conform to your idea without you understanding all the implications of implementing them. Wake up Congressman, you have a committee meeting to go to.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    There is something different about working for the public. And if you aren't working for the public, the school board is.
    The school board may be working for the public, but I'm working for my employer. And it doesn't change the fact there's no real reason you can give me why those who work for private employers are entitled to more privacy. I don't lament them having more privacy, I'm just saying there's no legitimate reason you can give me to why they are entitled to more privacy.

    I agree with your sentiments that "At first it bothered me" and that some people should not have more privacy than others. It would bother me if my salary was publicized, it would help criminals in determining who to rob or identity to steal, and it would put me on unequal footing with people who don't draw a salary and therefore have greater financial privacy. (Such as investors, landlords, pensioners, etc.)
    Make everyone's earnings public, I don't care. It'd probably go a long way in helping prevent tax fraud. And, as long as you aren't pulling down $1 million or more a year, I think you're grossly overestimating your risk to pre-planned home invasions. And, speaking from personal experience (not mine, but someone very close to me), if you're pulling down more than $1 million a year, you can afford to purchase extra security, which you probably need already.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I'm going to make a wild guess here and that is that when you wrote the above you pictured how you would react in the situation and then attributed your reaction to the populace at large.
    No, I just assumed those who would be willing to sue over compensation, regardless of how fair it was, would do so already.

    Now imagine the reaction of the most stupid and strident feminists with the least common sense imaginable and how this perpetual troublemaker would react.
    Why feminists? Why not men?

    But, using your example, don't you think those people are already trying to sue? Why would this law change anything?

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