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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a woman should not suffer lower pay just because she had to go through pregnancy.
    What she loses, her husband gains.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

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    The GOP stopped supporting equality in the 50's. The party of pitty. The party that represents inequality. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Equality was acheived some time ago. What they are talking about now is special privileges for women. The whole thing is a crock of dung.

    There is no pay gap when time worked and actual equivalence of the job is considered.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a woman should not suffer lower pay just because she had to go through pregnancy.
    Nonsense. Businesses are not social welfare organizations. They need people doing the work. People who don't do as much work and don't have the experience don't get paid as much.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    for every dollar a male employee earns, a female in the same job should earn the same salary for doing the same amount of work.
    untrue. why? the qualifications will be different. all pay grades have salary ranges. where you fall in that salary range depends on your lvl of skill.

    if someone has 2 more years experience should they not earn more than the person with 1 year or no experience?

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Once again you're talking about just a few data points. What if you found your 75k a year was equal to the bottom 5% out of 700k programmers? What happens if you found you were in the top 5%? Either way that information is useful to you in making employment decisions. Ultimately you would have to decide how to react to the information. This bill just provides transparency.
    But this bill isn't about industry averages, it's about the individual corporation's average. If this was designed to force employers to give raises based on industry/profession averages, then it not only goes too far, it goes WAY, WAY, WAY too far.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    for every dollar a male employee earns, a female in the same job should earn the same salary for doing the same amount of work.
    Only if both are equally qualified, have equal experience, have equal employee qualities and get equal results. Just doing the same job isn't enough to make that kind of decision.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    I have two questions to raise which will suggest that this pay equality BS is all a plot by the democrats to lure votes by painting people as victims, as usual:
    1. If women have the same qualifications as men then why doesn't the male unemployment rate look like crap compared to female unemployment? Wouldn't the big, bad capitalist be smart enough hire the cheaper of two equal candidates?
    2. The president likes to lump minorities with women when talking about equal pay. Why in the heck are white men painted as the evil face of the higher salary when it is actually Asians who have the highest salary?
    I could only laugh at how many times I heard POTUS use the words "fair" or "unfair" absurdly yesterday. The best part was that he claims it's caused by "various personal choices" when women earn less in the White House, but it's discrimination in the private sector.
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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    BS! Title VII is about discrimination, not pay.
    LOL and being paid less due to your gender when you do the same work is gender DISCRIMINATION

    try a few dozen Title VII cases as I have, and then I will listen to you tell me about a subject I was a recognized expert in



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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    a woman should not suffer lower pay just because she had to go through pregnancy.
    Yes, she should, IF the pay is based at least in part upon overall years on the job.

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    Re: Senate Republicans Block Paycheck Fairness Act For Third Time

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Add in being on the job the same amount of time and doing the job as well.
    that is what labor and ED lawyers refer to as "similarly situated employees"



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