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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nonsense. I don't recall Bush getting dragged into the mix during, say, the Larry Craig scandal, do you?
    Yeah.

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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Good find! The one HuffPo columnist who dredged up a five-year-old quote after Craig got busted shouldn't have. You see how stupid that was? Bush says hello to Larry Craig in 2002; after Craig gets nailed doing his wide stance, some idiot throws it at Bush a half-decade later. Completely pointless and lacking in both class and material value.

    So your argument is, "you did it first." Well, the fifth-grade playground called, it wants its excuse back.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So your argument is, "you did it first." Well, the fifth-grade playground called, it wants its excuse back.
    That and "We need to do it better--as in spades."
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    That and "We need to do it better--as in spades."
    Congratulations, then, you're contributing to the sewer-level political discourse we see today.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Good find! The one HuffPo columnist who dredged up a five-year-old quote after Craig got busted shouldn't have. You see how stupid that was? Bush says hello to Larry Craig in 2002; after Craig gets nailed doing his wide stance, some idiot throws it at Bush a half-decade later. Completely pointless and lacking in both class and material value.

    So your argument is, "you did it first." Well, the fifth-grade playground called, it wants its excuse back.
    In all honesty, Lewis is a humorist, so I give him some latitude for that. But I don't think anyone got the daily dose of vitriol Bush did. By comparison, Obama gets a pass from much of the traditional media, both in the U.S. and abroad.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    In all honesty, Lewis is a humorist, so I give him some latitude for that. But I don't think anyone got the daily dose of vitriol Bush did. By comparison, Obama gets a pass from much of the traditional media, both in the U.S. and abroad.
    Perspective is key, I suppose. I think the "traditional media" kept way too many cockamamie things about Obama around (birtherism, for example) way longer than they ever merited.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Nope, you just excused them..
    Nope. Didn't do that either.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Congratulations, then, you're contributing to the sewer-level political discourse we see today.
    Name a point in time when political discourse wasn't in the sewer. Politics is sewage.
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Perspective is key, I suppose. I think the "traditional media" kept way too many cockamamie things about Obama around (birtherism, for example) way longer than they ever merited.
    The press spent more time focusing on The Donald and Sarah Palin than they did questioning why he refused for so long to release his long-form birth certificate. They pretty much just said, "Trump is wacko because Obama's already released his birth certificate." Only after Trump kept hammering the issue home did Obama and his Chicago Boys feel enough pressure to actually release it. The pussyfooting, more than anything, fed the continued doubt. Just admit it: the press is enthralled with Obama but hated Bush.

    PS: Why is Eric Holder still the Attorney General?
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    Re: Married ‘Christian conservative’ congressman caught making out with staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    BTW, this married staffer he was carrying on with is the wife of his friend since childhood. Its one thing to have an affair, its another to have an affair with your life long friend's wife. More so while you sell yourself as a family values, Christian, socially conservative congressman.
    I think the big issue here is the employer-employee relationship. Carrying on with the wife of a friend may be repugnant to many but it is hard to understand why as public policy anyone would care. However, when an employer hits on a subordinate there is a power relationship that can't be overlooked. For ease of writing, I will use male boss-female employee language. The woman may go along with the approach out of fear of losing her job or promotion (even though unstated), she may go along with it in hope of getting an undeserved raise. The potential victims are co-workers who lose out on potential promotions as well as the woman herself. The French have it right when they consider any employer-employee adult consensual sexual relations as felony rape. Not sure how many ever are prosecuted but that is the law. Applied to maids and household staff or contract labor as well.
    When Bill Clinton got a pass and the myth of Lewinski and others being a "private matter" it set back this type of stuff years, to pre-Clarence Thomas age.

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