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N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

Somerville said:
Maybe you should read what your opponents write
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Maybe I should if an opponent would appear. So far. Nada. Bored as ****. Half of the people here would rather pretend voter fraud doesn't exist. What's the point.
 
Constantine said:
Maybe I should if an opponent would appear. So far. Nada. Bored as ****. Half of the people here would rather pretend voter fraud doesn't exist. What's the point.
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Yeah, denying reality is kinda boring, I must agree. It's all the same, day after day, the same trite nothingness.
 
Ockham said:
Is there a poll that you can link showing the "majority of the right doesn't" ? I'd like to see that please.
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That's evident by the fact the right concentrates only on voter ID for people going to vote and not absentee ballots. Where has the right shown ANY concern with such a wide open vulnerability to fraud as in absentee ballots? Oh yeah, they haven't.
 
TheNextEra said:
That's evident by the fact the right concentrates only on voter ID for people going to vote and not absentee ballots. Where has the right shown ANY concern with such a wide open vulnerability to fraud as in absentee ballots? Oh yeah, they haven't.
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If you have a viable way to prove voter ID for absentee ballots, I'll be for that as well. So what's your idea for it then?
 
Ockham said:
If you have a viable way to prove voter ID for absentee ballots, I'll be for that as well. So what's your idea for it then?
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Hey it's you on the right that whine and cry about NEEDING voter ID laws to prevent voter fraud yet leave WIDE OPEN fraud for absentee ballots. The hypocrisy is on YOU and the right. You don't REALLY care about voter fraud and that is evident. So spare us the speeches about voting integrity when you have a HUGE wide open backdoor in absentee ballots.
 
Just checking back on this topic. Any evidence of widespread voter fraud? Anything? :roll:
 
TheNextEra said:
Hey it's you on the right that whine and cry about NEEDING voter ID laws to prevent voter fraud yet leave WIDE OPEN fraud for absentee ballots.
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The only reason NOT to support voter ID laws is what then? See voter ID laws are for ALL political parties, not just liberals.

TheNextEra said:
The hypocrisy is on YOU and the right. You don't REALLY care about voter fraud and that is evident.
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Sure we do. Where's the hypocrisy? You make an accusation then don't back it up. Typical.

TheNextEra said:
So spare us the speeches about voting integrity when you have a HUGE wide open backdoor in absentee ballots.
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I'll spare you the speech when you on the left demonstrate integrity.

And by the way you apparently forgot to give your plan on securing absentee ballots ... so let me guess, more accusations, no plan, more BS... that's all we get from the LEFT. Anyone that claims disenfranchisement for being required to have an ID is a liar. You need ID to do just about anything in person... even when ID's are provided at no cost the WHINERS like YOUR party and the rest on the LEFT just can't help themselves. Why is that? Got a way to commit fraud and not get caught and you just don't want to give up the secret eh? Waaaaaaaa!
 
Just checking back on this topic. Any evidence of widespread voter fraud? Anything?
 
No, we point out the stupidity of insisting on something there is no evidence exists. There is no wide spread voter fraud. There is no Loch ness monster, no Sasquatch, and no Martians. Until you come up with some evidence I am right. All your scandals that lack any sort of evidence are just like the sasquatch. Nonexistant. I do not celebrate the lack of evidnece of a sas.
Fenton said:
Its funny that the left applauds a lack of evidence on wide spread voter fraud.

Lol..

So you guys are happy your getting away with it ?
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Fenton said:
Its funny that the left applauds a lack of evidence on wide spread voter fraud.

Lol..

So you guys are happy your getting away with it ?
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Here's something to think about: if there really is massive voter fraud perpetrated by the Left, do you realize just how big a conspiracy that would be? If you know anything about the Left, you'd know that discipline is not our strong suit. "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" the saying goes...and we suck at "falling in line".

So your assumption would require not only the thousands of Democrats which would be required in the states in order to commit this voter fraud would ALL keep their mouths shut...AND that we Democrats are so much smarter than the Republicans that we can do all that and leave no trace.

It's either that, or...

...there's no massive voter fraud.

But of course since it's unthinkable that the Right is ever wrong about anything, and that the Democrats are the root of all evil, then it must be that the Dems are SUCCESSFULLY committing voter fraud on a scale of complexity never seen before by any conspiracy in human history...and keeping it all so very quiet among themselves. Riiiiiiight.
 
This voter fraud thing alone should make all RWers really think about the things they believe.
Glen Contrarian said:
Here's something to think about: if there really is massive voter fraud perpetrated by the Left, do you realize just how big a conspiracy that would be? If you know anything about the Left, you'd know that discipline is not our strong suit. "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" the saying goes...and we suck at "falling in line".

So your assumption would require not only the thousands of Democrats which would be required in the states in order to commit this voter fraud would ALL keep their mouths shut...AND that we Democrats are so much smarter than the Republicans that we can do all that and leave no trace.

It's either that, or...

...there's no massive voter fraud.

But of course since it's unthinkable that the Right is ever wrong about anything, and that the Democrats are the root of all evil, then it must be that the Dems are SUCCESSFULLY committing voter fraud on a scale of complexity never seen before by any conspiracy in human history...and keeping it all so very quiet among themselves. Riiiiiiight.
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Glen Contrarian said:
Here's something to think about: if there really is massive voter fraud perpetrated by the Left, do you realize just how big a conspiracy that would be? If you know anything about the Left, you'd know that discipline is not our strong suit. "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" the saying goes...and we suck at "falling in line".

So your assumption would require not only the thousands of Democrats which would be required in the states in order to commit this voter fraud would ALL keep their mouths shut...AND that we Democrats are so much smarter than the Republicans that we can do all that and leave no trace.

It's either that, or...

...there's no massive voter fraud.

But of course since it's unthinkable that the Right is ever wrong about anything, and that the Democrats are the root of all evil, then it must be that the Dems are SUCCESSFULLY committing voter fraud on a scale of complexity never seen before by any conspiracy in human history...and keeping it all so very quiet among themselves. Riiiiiiight.
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Exactly where did you ever hear someone on the Right suggest that left-wing voter fraud was a "conspiracy"?

I'm sorry Glen, but that is one of the most ignorant claims I've ever heard__Seriously dude! :giggle1:

Do you believe that "massive voter fraud" can only occur by implementation of a "conspiracy"?!

I can assure you that people on the Right certainly don't promote any such "voter fraud conspiracy" nonsense_

Voter fraud is an individual crime perpetrated mostly by people of low intelligence with no respect for democracy_

These people sell their votes to the Candidate who promises them the most free stuff rather than a Candidate who promises them freedom through adherence to the Constitution and preservation of the American Dream_

The Democrat Party knows they are the primary beneficiary of "voter fraud" and the only "conspiracy" is their willingness to look the other way when it occurs and oppose any laws or bills that threaten to disrupt it_

And how amazingly ironic it is to hear a far-left advocate of a BIG BROTHER NANNY GOVERNMENT suggest they are less likely to "fall in line" than the right-wingers who promote personal responsibility, self-reliance and a small unintrusive government_
 
Empirica said:
I have examined "Voter ID" from every angle imaginable and found nothing in the least bit racist about it_

And I have yet to find anyone who can explain to me exactly how "Voter ID" could possibly be racist__Seriously!

If anybody believes they have a sensible rational answer to this dilemma then for christ sake please tell me!
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Add a voter ID law in a state that just happens to not have a single full-time DMV in the areas with the highest black population.
 
Why do so many assume that every single instance of voter fraud is committed by a person who voted for a Democratic candidate?
 
Beaudreaux said:
Democrat DA's will do nothing, and Republican DA's will. Why do I think that?
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I live in North Carolina. The Republicans took control of Governor, the state senate and the state house for the first time in over 150 years. They aren't about to waste this opportunity because that can easily change in the 2014 election.

The North Carolina legislature has been making a lot of drastic changes. The North Carolina Income tax was restructured to what almost looks like a 5.25% flat tax and there is a long term plan to reduce the North Carolina corporate income tax to zero. There was some hoop la over some kind of major anti-abortion legislation that pissed off a bunch of pro-choice groups. Of course the state of North Carolina jumped on board with the anti-Obama agenda. They denied the expansion of Medicaid to North Carolina citizens as part of the Affordable Care Act. One of their other major focuses is on minimizing voter fraud. I don't know how far they have got but they really want to do something before the 2016 election to remedy this problem.

Nationwide Republicans are a joke but being a Republican in North Carolina is exciting for those following the recent actions of the North Carolina legislature. :rwbelepha
 
Somerville said:
Why do so many assume that every single instance of voter fraud is committed by a person who voted for a Democratic candidate?
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It's probably because democrats don't care about voter fraud.

It would be natural to accuse the other side of being the perpetrator. Wouldn't you think? I guess the question you need to ask is, "Why aren't democrats complaining about voter fraud thus assuming Republicans are the perpetrators?
 
Empirica said:
I have examined "Voter ID" from every angle imaginable and found nothing in the least bit racist about it_

And I have yet to find anyone who can explain to me exactly how "Voter ID" could possibly be racist__Seriously!

If anybody believes they have a sensible rational answer to this dilemma then for christ sake please tell me!
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It's based on stats and stereotypes. Fewer blacks have jobs or cars than whites. There are lots of black people that don't have a driver's license and don't really need it for anything. Blacks are statistically poorer than other races. They don't have the $25 necessary to get a state issued ID card. Black people are also more likely to vote than other races of people.

There are fewer whites in this situation. It's not a solid argument but it is a sensible way to discuss the issue. North Carolina actually gave credibility to these arguments by allowing people to get a state issued ID card for free as a government service and have even offered transportation to take people to the DMV to get an ID.

Yes. This is equally discriminatory to poor whites too but blacks are disproportionately effected by these difficulties. Does that make sense? If you are white and have a driver's license then you will probably be unable to understand the predicament. If you are white, don't have an ID card, don't have a driver's license and don't vote then you won't understand either.
 
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