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N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

So you're cool with voter fraud, but not when it decides an election - like in Minnesota and Al Franken. Good to know.
Al Franken won the race fair and square.
 
My father voted streight Republican until the day he died. Now he votes democrat.
 
It is how they explain losing to themselves and the democrats give "them" people free stuff.
When investigations run by Republican-controlled legislatures fail to find the massive voter fraud so often alleged, one must wonder why the constant fixation on such a non-existent matter.
 
Perhaps you should inform your progressive brethren that it's not a myth. I guess not being a progressive sheeple unqualifies me --- That's a badge of honor, ty for the compliment.

Tell you what, I'll let them know if you can find me one person who says voter fraud never happens. They actually have to say it doesn't happen.

In reality, you'll find those darn liberals usually saying it's rare, or not a problem that requires government intrusion. This should not be interpreted as indicating it doesn't happen.
 
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Tell you what, I'll let them know if you can find me one person who says voter fraud never happens. They actually have to say it doesn't happen.
Make up your mind... do they have to say it "never" happens or that it "doesn't happen". One's an absolute, the other isn't an absolute.

In reality, you'll find those darn liberals usually saying it's rare, or not a problem that requires government intrusion. This should not be interpreted as indicating it doesn't happen.
What I found was most liberals say it's not worth mentioning, which is a lie, it happens all the time and I would venture to say in every federal election. Tell you what, next time I see a prog or lib saying it's a myth or not worth mentioning, I'll call you out to set them straight on the subject.
 
Make up your mind... do they have to say it "never" happens or that it "doesn't happen". One's an absolute, the other isn't an absolute.

What I found was most liberals say it's not worth mentioning, which is a lie, it happens all the time and I would venture to say in every federal election. Tell you what, next time I see a prog or lib saying it's a myth or not worth mentioning, I'll call you out to set them straight on the subject.

Make up your mind. A myth doesn't exist, it's an absolute. Not worth mentioning isn't an absolute.
 
I try to remeber to say "widesperad" voter fraud is a right wing myth they use to convience themselves is why they loose elections, not being completely out of touch with at least 47%...
Make up your mind. A myth doesn't exist, it's an absolute. Not worth mentioning isn't an absolute.
 
Make up your mind. A myth doesn't exist, it's an absolute. Not worth mentioning isn't an absolute.

Since you didn't make a decision, which is it... "never" or "doesn't happen"?
 
Since you didn't make a decision, which is it... "never" or "doesn't happen"?

The question really should be: When was the last state or national election affected by voter fraud?

Then there is the question: How many of the proven cases of voter fraud were a result of nothing more than stupidity on the part of the voter?

and finally: Why have the Republicans used the fear of "voter fraud" to promote discriminatory laws restricting not just voters' rights but also their opportunities to vote? How does reducing the numbers of days citizens may vote reduce the chances for voter fraud?

OK, so that was more than one question.
 
The question really should be: When was the last state or national election affected by voter fraud?
No, my question stands but I doubt I'll get a straight answer.
 
No, my question stands but I doubt I'll get a straight answer.

OK - is there voter fraud? Yes. Now - answer my question: What/when was the last election determined by voter fraud?

Another question: Why has every investigation to date found the actual number of bad votes cast to be a microscopic fraction of all votes cast, yet the "fiscal conservatives" continue to throw money at a near non-existent problem?
 
The question really should be: When was the last state or national election affected by voter fraud?

Then there is the question: How many of the proven cases of voter fraud were a result of nothing more than stupidity on the part of the voter?

and finally: Why have the Republicans used the fear of "voter fraud" to promote discriminatory laws restricting not just voters' rights but also their opportunities to vote? How does reducing the numbers of days citizens may vote reduce the chances for voter fraud?

OK, so that was more than one question.

Voter fraud is fificult to catch but it is easy to prevent. I hope there are an extraordinary amount of prosecutions as a result of improved communication between states and technology that catches those who try to game the system. We will never know how many elections were changed by voter fraud. That doesn't mean though that it doesn't exist.

What laws are discriminatory and why do they discriminate?
 
OK - is there voter fraud? Yes.
That wasn't my question, and my question wasn't directed at you.

Now - answer my question: What/when was the last election determined by voter fraud?
Irrelevant - voter fraud is illegal and therefore is punishible by law. The leading premise of your question is one of a victimless crime which is moronic. Voter fraud does not need to determine an election to be illegal. Ask better questions.


Another question: Why has every investigation to date found the actual number of bad votes cast to be a microscopic fraction of all votes cast, yet the "fiscal conservatives" continue to throw money at a near non-existent problem?
Microscopic compared to what? How much money was thrown exactly? You're questions are horribly biased and have no foundation. Which fiscal conservatives? As far as I'm concerned you need to stop making statements disguised as questions or at least, provide a foundation of fact to your accusations. :lamo
 
That wasn't my question, and my question wasn't directed at you.

Irrelevant - voter fraud is illegal and therefore is punishible by law. The leading premise of your question is one of a victimless crime which is moronic. Voter fraud does not need to determine an election to be illegal.

Ok so if the right is sooooo concerned about voting fraud why has nothing been done to stop any voter fraud with absentee ballots?
 
The question really should be: When was the last state or national election affected by voter fraud?

Then there is the question: How many of the proven cases of voter fraud were a result of nothing more than stupidity on the part of the voter?

and finally: Why have the Republicans used the fear of "voter fraud" to promote discriminatory laws restricting not just voters' rights but also their opportunities to vote? How does reducing the numbers of days citizens may vote reduce the chances for voter fraud?

OK, so that was more than one question.

Good luck getting an answer to the bolded...

or this one...
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Ok so if the right is sooooo concerned about voting fraud why has nothing been done to stop any voter fraud with absentee ballots?

or the reasoning of any of these restrictive measures...

end Election Day and same-day voter registration

limit voter registration mobilization efforts


In fact if voter ID is so great (I guess no one has ever heard of teenagers getting fake IDs) why register at all? All you have to do is make the photo background a certain color of everyone who is eligible to vote. Those ineligible to vote would have a different background color.

To encourage voting, start with the premiss that everyone over 18 is eligible to vote. Instead of having to initiate the privilege (i.e. registering) to vote, put the burden on the system to have to remove the privilege.
 
$100 says they wont prosecute any of them because Eric Holder directed his state attorney generals not to. I may not like our executive branch too much or the leadership provided...but the judicial branch is truly corrupt to the core. I have no trust in the judicial branch at all.

state attorneys general are independent of the Federal justice department. AGs are in the Executive branch not the Judicial which are the courts.

Maybe you should listen to someone else before you rant.
 
Ok so if the right is sooooo concerned about voting fraud why has nothing been done to stop any voter fraud with absentee ballots?

Absentee ballots are open to Democrats last I looked as well... you'll find my view is ALL voter fraud should be prosecuted and investigated. ALL voting should require an ID. ALL voting should be databased and duplicates removed, dead people removed, pets removed from voting. What I see is the left is sooooooo UN-concerned, and that begs the question .. why so unconcerned?
 
Absentee ballots are open to Democrats last I looked as well... you'll find my view is ALL voter fraud should be prosecuted and investigated. ALL voting should require an ID. ALL voting should be databased and duplicates removed, dead people removed, pets removed from voting. What I see is the left is sooooooo UN-concerned, and that begs the question .. why so unconcerned?

That's great that YOU want to investigate ALL voter fraud, the fact is the majority of the right doesn't or it would be done with absentee ballot voting as well. YOU can say all you like, the right doesn't investigate it when it comes to absentee voting. It's quite hypocritical from those on the right.
 
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state attorneys general are independent of the Federal justice department. AGs are in the Executive branch not the Judicial which are the courts.

Maybe you should listen to someone else before you rant.
Like you? :lamo

Move along. You've got nothing. Go pick your fight elsewhere. At least *try* to Google before embarrassing yourself.

Eric Holder Says State Attorneys General Do Not Have to Defend Gay Marriage Ban - ABC News

Maybe you should read what your opponents write: "state attorneys general are independent of the Federal justice department followed by actually reading the speech AG Holder gave at the 2014 National Association of Attorneys General Winter Meeting
The words Holder actually said in discussing what state attorney generals should try to do when examining the status of same sex marriage laws
Any decisions – at any level – not to defend individual laws must be exceedingly rare. They must be reserved only for exceptional circumstances. And they must never stem merely from policy or political disagreements – hinging instead on firm constitutional grounds. But in general, I believe we must be suspicious of legal classifications based solely on sexual orientation. And we must endeavor – in all of our efforts – to uphold and advance the values that once led our forebears to declare unequivocally that all are created equal and entitled to equal opportunity.

The ABC headline looks like just another instance of that "Liberal Main Stream Media bias" :roll:
 
That's great that YOU want to investigate ALL voter fraud, the fact is the majority of the right doesn't or it would be done with absentee ballot voting as well. YOU can say all you like, the right doesn't investigate it when it comes to absentee voting. It's quite hypocritical from those on the right.

Is there a poll that you can link showing the "majority of the right doesn't" ? I'd like to see that please.
 
As somebody else accurately pointed out, we always get these allegations but when it comes to actual prosecution and conviction of these felons, there is nothing. Because that's all they are - allegations. Let's see a story of large numbers of people actually convicted of voter fraud. Allegations are easy to make. Convictions - which require actual evidence before a judge and/or a jury - are a lot less common, because most of the allegations are pure bull****.

I have an allegation to make. Father Guido Sarduchi is a cannibal. Do I have proof? No, but I has plenty of evidence. Just a minute while I pull some of that evidence out of my ass. What? There has been no conviction here in this horrible case? Say it ain't so. We need to change the laws to make it a crime for a priest to eat people. Never mind what priests are doing to little children sexually. This is much, much more important. Why? Because I say so. LOL.
 
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