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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    What part of partial would you file this under?
    Better question: assuming 100% of these are actual fraud, how many of these votes would have been stopped by voter ID?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    My anecdotes are as good as anybody else's, especially those including vague dismissals which don't address any substantive points. Naturally, for those of a particular disposition, no objective will be met by doing such a thing.
    I totally agree that your anecdotes are just as worthless as everyone else's anecdotes.

    You haven't made any substantive points. The fact that O'Keefe can videotape getting someone else's ballot is not evidence that voter fraud is rampant.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Better question: assuming 100% of these are actual fraud, how many of these votes would have been stopped by voter ID?
    http://voterintegrityproject.com/wp-...April-2014.pdf

    Here's a pdf which outlines the multi state voter integrity project. I'd start on page 32 for an explaination of the states that are participating, page 35 displays their findings which are described on the ABC news site and page 39 has legislated requests authored by the board of elections. Have fun.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    $100 says they wont prosecute any of them because Eric Holder directed his state attorney generals not to. I may not like our executive branch too much or the leadership provided...but the judicial branch is truly corrupt to the core. I have no trust in the judicial branch at all.


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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    http://voterintegrityproject.com/wp-...April-2014.pdf

    Here's a pdf which outlines the multi state voter integrity project. I'd start on page 32 for an explaination of the states that are participating, page 35 displays their findings which are described on the ABC news site and page 39 has legislated requests authored by the board of elections. Have fun.
    You didn't answer my question because you know the answer is zero. Checking my ID doesn't show whether or not I've already voted in a different state. Dipping my finger in ink would literally be more effective at this task.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You didn't answer my question because you know the answer is zero. Checking my ID doesn't show whether or not I've already voted in a different state. Dipping my finger in ink would literally be more effective at this task.
    You didn't read the legislative initiatives. Eventually they'll have software that will cross check with other states and if things go right you'd find yourself in a lovely cell in a state institution. Checking your ID would prove that you are voting where you registered, that you are who you say you are and that you aren't voting for a dead person. It makes all the sense in the world.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    You didn't read the legislative initiatives. Eventually they'll have software that will cross check with other states and if things go right you'd find yourself in a lovely cell in a state institution. Checking your ID would prove that you are voting where you registered, that you are who you say you are and that you aren't voting for a dead person. It makes all the sense in the world.
    That's not how it's going to work. If you vote in two states, they'll catch you after the fact, not during.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That's not how it's going to work. If you vote in two states, they'll catch you after the fact, not during.
    Well don't you think that if people knew they would be caught and sent to jail it would modify their behavior? Voter fraud is a direct attack on our representative democracy. It's just as much a crime as treason and nearly as important.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Well don't you think that if people knew they would be caught and sent to jail it would modify their behavior? Voter fraud is a direct attack on our representative democracy. It's just as much a crime as treason and nearly as important.
    How exactly do you think they came up with the list they have? An ID law wouldn't change this, these people have already been "caught." (the ones that aren't clerical errors, similar or identical names, etc. anyway)
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How exactly do you think they came up with the list they have? An ID law wouldn't change this, these people have already been "caught." (the ones that aren't clerical errors, similar or identical names, etc. anyway)
    An ID law supports prosecution of people who break voting laws. Take that positive identification of the fraudulant voter away and prosecution is impossible.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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