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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Nothing has been proved???

    People voted in more than one precinct in more than one state.

    People that were dead... voted.

    Both of those things have been proven.

    Nothing in what I said had anything to do with voter ID.

    I think if you were to read my other posts on this board, and talk to many of the other members, you would find that I am one of the least partisan people on this forum.

    In other words, your blatant denial of the facts in the reports of the findings, is Blindly Partisan, by saying nothing has been proven.

    Not a good start for a new member here.
    How does voting in more than one state really effect an election? Unless it's a Presidential election, they're not voting for the same person (and even if it is a Presidential election, the popular vote doesn't count for much anyway).

    The amount of time and effort it would take to tip an election one way or the other using these means is incredible. You think Democrats are incompetent in government, yet capable of masterminding that kind of conspiracy? Seriously, anybody capable of that is probably better suited to run a government anyway.


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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    How many voted in two separate precincts? When the same charges were laid two years ago in South Carolina, investigation found more than half of the supposed dual voters were due to clerical errors. We have people with the same names, we have people who moved from one district to another and didn't tell the old registrar they no longer lived in the district. South Carolina found almost everyone of the "dead" voters were cases of sons with the same names as their deceased fathers.

    At this time NOTHING has been proven, the elections board has found names that seem to indicate voter fraud but until every single scrap of paper is gone over, checking signatures and verifying that there were no mistakes, we have only charges but no proof.
    So you'd be fine with ignoring all this regardless of the truth that may be found if it hasn't already? Good to know. Let's just dismiss anything found so that the status quo remains. Except, I would prefer that my vote not be wiped out by one of these people and disenfranchise me; that is if you don't mind.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    If you are speaking of NC, no they have not been proven. not a single one of them.

    And I predict few if any cases of voter fraud will be proven once a proper investigation is conducted.
    I'm from NC also. The State Election Board is the one that has conducted the investigation, and has referred the findings to the local District Attorney's. We'll see what happens then, which I gave me prediction of what would happen in an earlier post.

    Or, we could just ignore it, say to hell with our voting rights, and let anyone from around the world come here and vote for our government representatives?
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    "Something" is exactly what they're trying to do. Unfortunately, they focus on the smallest part of the problem and convince people that they are part of the solution. Congratulations on being so gullible. It basically comes down to they think Democrats benefit, and anything that hurts Democrats is good enough for them.

    If they put as much effort into good elections here as they did in Iraq, they wouldn't be going after such small potatoes.
    Nice!!! That was a better than average deflection. I'm impressed. Seriously.

    Although it still doesn't address the issues of which party is trying to do something and which party is not, and the fact that any voter fraud (for whatever reason) does in fact disenfranchise citizens and there is no evidence that these laws may or may not.

    I prefer to at least start by doing something that gets us moving in the correct direction of protecting our most valuable right as a citizen of the US, our franchise.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How does voting in more than one state really effect an election? Unless it's a Presidential election, they're not voting for the same person (and even if it is a Presidential election, the popular vote doesn't count for much anyway).

    The amount of time and effort it would take to tip an election one way or the other using these means is incredible. You think Democrats are incompetent in government, yet capable of masterminding that kind of conspiracy? Seriously, anybody capable of that is probably better suited to run a government anyway.
    When did I say that Democrats are masterminding anything. I don't think either party is capable of having a mind at all, much less a master mind.

    All I said was that one party is trying to do something, and one party isn't. There's no way to tell which party a given fraudulent vote was cast. The difference so far is that one party doesn't care about that and only wants to protect the voting system in the US (although they aren't doing it completely correct to the extent needed) and the other party just doesn't seem to care about voter fraud and screams that the voters they feel would vote for them are the ones that would be effected by these laws. That's the overt impression. Why is that? Since it's been shown that these laws will have no effect on any eligible voter.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I'm from NC also. The State Election Board is the one that has conducted the investigation,
    What investigation? Have they contacted a single one of the alleged double voters to see if there might be some innocent explanation, such as that the person in question has actually lived in Alaska for the last 10 years but never told his old NC precinct he was leaving?



    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    and has referred the findings to the local District Attorney's.
    I missed that the DAs had gotten any work out of this yet. I bet they are just thrilled about having 35,000 hot cases dumped in their laps. Or has that diligent Election Board winnowed out a few. If so, how many were winnowed and why?



    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    We'll see what happens then, which I gave me prediction of what would happen in an earlier post.
    Don't be bashful, go ahead and tell us again so we don't have go hunt for it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Or, we could just ignore it, say to hell with our voting rights, and let anyone from around the world come here and vote for our government representatives?
    I want a full, fair, complete investigation, so don't you worry your feverish little Republican head over that.

    It might interest you to know that a smaller-scale but otherwise similar brouhaha in South Carolina apparently did not result in a single prosecution. Check it out:

    Investigative Report: SLED Investigation Into Voter Fraud

    Now that the NC Republican assholes have gone on record with a fantastic number in the 10s of thousands fraudulent votes my prediction is that the national and indeed international media will have to take a good look at just exactly what is going on here. My further prediction is that there won't be 10 people convicted, and there might not even be that many charged, because like so much else which exists in the fevered minds of Republicans this massive voter fraud exists only in their minds. When the truth is out they will be laughingstock.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Nothing has been proved???

    People voted in more than one precinct in more than one state.

    People that were dead... voted.

    Both of those things have been proven.

    Nothing in what I said had anything to do with voter ID.

    I think if you were to read my other posts on this board, and talk to many of the other members, you would find that I am one of the least partisan people on this forum.

    In other words, your blatant denial of the facts in the reports of the findings, is Blindly Partisan, by saying nothing has been proven.

    Not a good start for a new member here.
    no it hasn't been proven the article itself says this could be a reporting error. If you link to Pajamas media for facts you are a partisan hack.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    What investigation? Have they contacted a single one of the alleged double voters to see if there might be some innocent explanation, such as that the person in question has actually lived in Alaska for the last 10 years but never told his old NC precinct he was leaving?




    I missed that the DAs had gotten any work out of this yet. I bet they are just thrilled about having 35,000 hot cases dumped in their laps. Or has that diligent Election Board winnowed out a few. If so, how many were winnowed and why?




    Don't be bashful, go ahead and tell us again so we don't have go hunt for it.




    I want a full, fair, complete investigation, so don't you worry your feverish little Republican head over that.

    It might interest you to know that a smaller-scale but otherwise similar brouhaha in South Carolina apparently did not result in a single prosecution. Check it out:

    Investigative Report: SLED Investigation Into Voter Fraud

    Now that the NC Republican assholes have gone on record with a fantastic number in the 10s of thousands fraudulent votes my prediction is that the national and indeed international media will have to take a good look at just exactly what is going on here. My further prediction is that there won't be 10 people convicted, and there might not even be that many charged, because like so much else which exists in the fevered minds of Republicans this massive voter fraud exists only in their minds. When the truth is out they will be laughingstock.
    Yes, the charges of voter fraud piss Democrats off like nothing else apparently.

    Well asking someone for a ID to vote pisses you people off too.

    But the two, I'm sure are NOT related......maybe.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    no it hasn't been proven the article itself says this could be a reporting error. If you link to Pajamas media for facts you are a partisan hack.
    Pajamas media? What is that? I linked to the local news, which gave both sides of the debate. Maybe you've confused me with someone else.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes, the charges of voter fraud piss Democrats off like nothing else apparently.

    Well asking someone for a ID to vote pisses you people off too.

    But the two, I'm sure are NOT related......maybe.

    Pray tell, why are Republican governed states cutting voting times by eliminating early voting days and weekend voting - days when low income workers have the time to stand in line to vote?

    Why have Republican legislatures decided to refuse to accept state university photo IDs?

    Why have Republican states made absentee voting easier? Many of the cases of dual votes have been the result of mailed in ballots followed up by in-person voting

    When it is pointed out that the laws being passed impact demographic groups which traditionally vote Democratic, the Republican response has been "Yeah, so what!" Turzai: Voter ID Law Means Romney Can Win in PA | PoliticsPA

    It is not the "charges of voter fraud" that piss off Democrats, it is the laws being passed which directly affect many voters without actual justification. In every instance investigated to date, all in Republican states, the results have failed to support the charges of wide-spread voter fraud.
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