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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Just checking back. Any proof of widespread voter fraud yet?
    The OP has some examples but I don't think there have been any arrests. Is that what you meant?

    I think we are SOL for past voter fraud violations. All we can do is try to prevent it in the future. It seems like they would be able to make at least one case.

    I wonder what the punishment is for committing voter fraud.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Yes, you know, proof. I think widespread voter fraud is another myth made up by the right to stir up their base and to explain away their election losses. I think having to have an ID is fine, the default postion should be to allow the vote though. THen if it is fraudulent, arrest them and charge them with a felony. Voter fraud is a felony and has prison time.
    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The OP has some examples but I don't think there have been any arrests. Is that what you meant?

    I think we are SOL for past voter fraud violations. All we can do is try to prevent it in the future. It seems like they would be able to make at least one case.

    I wonder what the punishment is for committing voter fraud.
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes, you know, proof. I think widespread voter fraud is another myth made up by the right to stir up their base and to explain away their election losses. I think having to have an ID is fine, the default postion should be to allow the vote though. THen if it is fraudulent, arrest them and charge them with a felony. Voter fraud is a felony and has prison time.
    Voter fraud is hard to prove, nearly impossible without requiring a valid, state issued, photo ID bearing the name and address matching a prior voter registration. Even with that system in place, it is possible to register and vote in multiple locations unless they crosscheck with each other.

    44,000 voters registered in both Va. and Md., group finds - DC News FOX 5 DC WTTG
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Your logic is impeccable for someone under the age of 50.
    I'm actually under the age of 30 Vasu_
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    My "impeccable logic" is the result of an abundance of common sense and my Ayn Rand style of objectivism_

    Do you know how many times I have heard an old southern person say, "I am not racist but" ? I have heard it a lot. That tells me that they are racists as all get out but they know it's socially unacceptable.

    No! Racism isn't the only reason to support Voter ID laws. If you are listening to a 70 year old white person that was born and raised in North Carolina that could be the only reason they like the Voter ID laws. Racism is not dead in our country. Surely you know at least one person over the age of 50.
    There will always be racist individuals of every color although this form of racism is isolated and inconsequential_

    The only time that "racism" is a problem is when it is instituted by government and condoned by society_

    This issue aside: It is not uncommon when dealing with controversial topics to disguise your motivations. Would you disagree?
    I would not disagree but this tactic is much more common to the far left ideologies_

    It is also not uncommon for the left to play the race card on every single racial issue with conflicting opinions_

    And Voter ID is just one of many examples of this extremely common occurrence_

    The accusation of "racism" has been made so often, I'm surprised anyone still takes it seriously_
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    How do you "prove" voter fraud in areas that don't require ID? It's almost like proving a negative.

    Let's say I own a liquor store. Business is slow, so I decide to stop asking for proof of age from my customers.
    Word gets out. Business is booming. Sure, my clientele looks a bit younger, but what they hay? I'm profiting.

    So when the powers-that-be ask me how many minors I've served, I can honestly say none. My customers said they were over 21.
    They can't prove me wrong, because there isn't any evidence. I didn't ask for ID, I took people at their word.
    Maybe they catch one or two minors buying alcohol from my store, but that doesn't prove other minors bought alcohol from my store, does it?
    Or does it?

    What baffles me are the people who insist that we really don't need fair and honest elections.
    Methinks they dost protest too much.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    The accusation of "racism" has been made so often, I'm surprised anyone still takes it seriously_
    In day to day conversations it isn't taken seriously.

    This is about the history of particular areas in our country where the federal government had to get involved because black people were being discriminated against. You didn't see it. I didn't see it. There are still people alive who did see that happen.

    I'm sure you know the history behind this but you are choosing to ignore it. I'll just pretend as if you don't know.

    Local governments in some of the southern states required voters to pass a reading test in order to vote. Come to find out the motivation was to keep black people from voting rather than keeping illiterate people from voting.

    Is this a part of history that you enjoy ignoring? There are living eye witnesses in your neighborhood if you think this didn't happen. You can just ask around.

    The courts are acting with caution when the race card is played and I think they should.

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    In day to day conversations it isn't taken seriously.

    This is about the history of particular areas in our country where the federal government had to get involved because black people were being discriminated against. You didn't see it. I didn't see it. There are still people alive who did see that happen.
    True, we didn't see it but we can't help but be aware of it because of the generational overlap_

    And I'm sure you are as appalled by this episode of injustice as we are about much of human history_

    People of every race on every continent have been slaves as well as have been the slavers_

    And people of every color and gender still suffer discrimination in many parts of the world_

    Except in Western Cultures where discrimination of minorities and women is no longer tolerated_

    All that is needed to totally eradicate discrimination in the United States is to end Affirmative Action_

    I'm sure you know the history behind this but you are choosing to ignore it. I'll just pretend as if you don't know.

    Local governments in some of the southern states required voters to pass a reading test in order to vote. Come to find out the motivation was to keep black people from voting rather than keeping illiterate people from voting.

    Is this a part of history that you enjoy ignoring? There are living eye witnesses in your neighborhood if you think this didn't happen. You can just ask around.

    The courts are acting with caution when the race card is played and I think they should.
    Sorry Vasu but the courts are not "acting with caution"; they are acting politically_

    And they are doing so by the strict standards and guidelines of Political Correctness_

    50 years of left-wing media indoctrination has made America fearful of rational reasoning_

    "Whoever controls the past, controls the future...Whoever controls the present, controls the past" (history)

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    That "flow" is now primarily controlled by the Progressive Main Stream Media, teacher's unions and universities_

    These powerful and influential entities have been hard at work for decades teaching us how and what to think_

    And failure to comply will get you branded a racist, sexist, xenophobe, homophobe or hater of whatever_

    You can't seriously believe so many Americans adopted far-left rhetoric of their own volition in such a few decades?!

    I have witnessed this indoctrination my entire 26 years as well as experienced it at universities where I studied_

    My brothers and I are 1st generation US Citizens that escaped Socialization by receiving daily doses of the truth from parents whose knowledge and experience came first-hand from their prior lives behind an Iron Curtain_

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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    And you believe I will find evidence that the vast majority of right-wingers believe in a "left-wing voter fraud conspiracy" rather than simply some minor fringe element of it?!

    FYI, you can find something no matter what you google__Try googling Toro De Caca if you don't believe me!
    From an October 2012 poll:

    -In Ohio 62% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 50% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.

    -In Florida 60% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 55% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.

    -In North Carolina 69% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 51% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.


    And from 2007:

    Nearly half the U.S. attorneys slated for removal by the administration last year were targets of Republican complaints that they were lax on voter fraud, including efforts by presidential adviser Karl Rove to encourage more prosecutions of election- law violations, according to new documents and interviews.

    Of the 12 U.S. attorneys known to have been dismissed or considered for removal last year, five were identified by Rove or other administration officials as working in districts that were trouble spots for voter fraud -- Kansas City, Mo.; Milwaukee; New Mexico; Nevada; and Washington state. Four of the five prosecutors in those districts were dismissed.


    Somehow I don't think that "well over half the Republican party" and "action taken by the Republican president" qualify as "merely a fringe of the Republican party".
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
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    That "flow" is now primarily controlled by the Progressive Main Stream Media, teacher's unions and universities_

    These powerful and influential entities have been hard at work for decades teaching us how and what to think_

    And failure to comply will get you branded a racist, sexist, xenophobe, homophobe or hater of whatever_

    You can't seriously believe so many Americans adopted far-left rhetoric of their own volition in such a few decades?!

    I have witnessed this indoctrination my entire 26 years as well as experienced it at universities where I studied_

    My brothers and I are 1st generation US Citizens that escaped Socialization by receiving daily doses of the truth from parents whose knowledge and experience came first-hand from their prior lives behind an Iron Curtain_

    "Beware the piper as you follow singing and dancing while he plays his beautiful tune"
    Just a couple of items that illustrate the difficulty in communicating with some folks

    Funny how the teachers' unions are so powerful when every year there are fewer members. It is looking more and more like a conspiracy theory similar to that in which a mysterious group known as the Illuminati control everything yet no one has ever met a member of said group. Far too many apparently believe that an ever decreasing group gains more power as its numbers shrink.

    It is a conservative meme that the vast majority of "Main Stream Media" is "Progressive" or "left-leaning" created by a propaganda operation that has slowly but surely taken over the minds of many Americans. The fact that it just ain't so no longer matters because at least 27% of the population knows it to be True.

    The whole "universities are nothing more than indoctrination centres for far-left radicalism" would be truly hilarious if the idea wasn't being used to destroy public universities in this country. Funny how many of the 'conservative' voices brag about their advanced degrees from these hotbeds of progressivism - almost as if those degrees are meant to impress the gullible who simultaneously are being told, "Don't allow your children go to these schools!"

    Paying attention in class should provide the information to allow one to define the words Socialization and Socialism
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    Re: N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    From an October 2012 poll:

    -In Ohio 62% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 50% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.

    -In Florida 60% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 55% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.

    -In North Carolina 69% of Republicans think Democrats will engage in voter fraud to make sure that Barack Obama wins. 51% of the Democrats think that the GOP will engage in voter fraud to ensure a Romney victory.


    And from 2007:

    Nearly half the U.S. attorneys slated for removal by the administration last year were targets of Republican complaints that they were lax on voter fraud, including efforts by presidential adviser Karl Rove to encourage more prosecutions of election- law violations, according to new documents and interviews.

    Of the 12 U.S. attorneys known to have been dismissed or considered for removal last year, five were identified by Rove or other administration officials as working in districts that were trouble spots for voter fraud -- Kansas City, Mo.; Milwaukee; New Mexico; Nevada; and Washington state. Four of the five prosecutors in those districts were dismissed.


    Somehow I don't think that "well over half the Republican party" and "action taken by the Republican president" qualify as "merely a fringe of the Republican party".
    Still yet; none of this suggests that conservatives are declaring voter fraud a "Conspiracy"_

    The vast majority of right-wingers simply believe too many left-wing voters are of low character_
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