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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
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    Irrelevent to the primary goal of the Border Patrol. You stated that the Border Patrol was supposed to apprehend and send back illegal aliens. Not to stop them. I showed that you were wrong. I showed that their primary goal is indeed to stop them.
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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You went to the dictionary for your mission statement of the US Border Patrol? Did the dictionary also describe BP regulations and directives?
    You seem to be completely ignoring the first link. Why? The second link, from the dictionary, was to prevent you from quibbleing over stupid semantics. Which it apparently did because now you're trying to spin and side track. As I stated in my previous post. You stated that the Border Patrol was supposed to apprehend and send back illegal aliens. Not to stop them. I showed that you were wrong. Not only by giving you the definition of "prevent" but also by giving you a link directly to a government website and quote from that website that states the primary goal of the Border Patrol.
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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Irrelevent to the primary goal of the Border Patrol. You stated that the Border Patrol was supposed to apprehend and send back illegal aliens. Not to stop them. I showed that you were wrong. I showed that their primary goal is indeed to stop them.
    Border protection is not the same as stoping unlawful entry. Of course border guards at a international border checkpoint checks to see that only authorized persons enter.

    But agents in the field are not there to stop crossers...not on a 2000 mile long border. That is impossible. Their main function is to apprehend and turn back...NOT to stop.

    The agents that were injured and that shot back across the border were not at a checkpoint...they were in the field.


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Border protection is not the same as stoping unlawful entry. Of course border guards at a international border checkpoint checks to see that only authorized persons enter.

    But agents in the field are not there to stop crossers...not on a 2000 mile long border. That is impossible. Their main function is to apprehend and turn back...NOT to stop.

    The agents that were injured and that shot back across the border were not at a checkpoint...they were in the field.
    Apprehension is just one aspect of stopping them. We're not barbarians. But if the need requires it then other aspects may be used. Either way they are stopped. You seem to think that the ONLY valid way of stopping them is apprehension. Its not. Border Patrol folks do have a right to defend themselves with deadly force just like any other American.
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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Border protection is not the same as stoping unlawful entry. Of course border guards at a international border checkpoint checks to see that only authorized persons enter.

    But agents in the field are not there to stop crossers...not on a 2000 mile long border. That is impossible. Their main function is to apprehend and turn back...NOT to stop.

    The agents that were injured and that shot back across the border were not at a checkpoint...they were in the field.
    Where do you get this stuff? Obama made it clear that southern texas is getting his "enforcement" done right now, letting everyone know that california and AZ are wide open. Hope and change.

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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    CBP should shoot back with rubber bullets.

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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    CBP should shoot back with rubber bullets.

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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Apprehension is just one aspect of stopping them. We're not barbarians. But if the need requires it then other aspects may be used. Either way they are stopped. You seem to think that the ONLY valid way of stopping them is apprehension. Its not. Border Patrol folks do have a right to defend themselves with deadly force just like any other American.
    I never said in any way, shape, or form that BP agents did not have the right to defend themselves. I've lost count on how many times Ive posted the directives from BP superiors. It seems you are going out of your way to say shootings are justified regardless of the situation.

    It is not my belief...you yours that matters, it is the agency and its employees. Believe as you wish.


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I never said in any way, shape, or form that BP agents did not have the right to defend themselves. I've lost count on how many times Ive posted the directives from BP superiors. It seems you are going out of your way to say shootings are justified regardless of the situation.

    It is not my belief...you yours that matters, it is the agency and its employees. Believe as you wish.
    You support the BP regulations correct? As such you support their rule to run and hide if rocks are thrown, what can be a deadly projectile, at BP agents. That is implying that BP Agents do not have the right to defend themselves with deadly force, particularly with your erroneous comment that BP agents out in the field are not allowed to stop illegal aliens. And for purposes of self defense national boundary lines are irrelevent.

    And yes, it does matter what our beliefs are as it is up to us, the American people, to make sure that reasonable laws and regulations are put into effect. It is our DUTY to make sure of this. It is up to us to get bad laws and regulations removed when politicians implement them. It is up to us to get good ones implemented. The government, and all of its agencies are our servants. NOT our masters. WE regulate THEM. They do not regulate us unless we say that they can on any given situation. People need to start understanding this VERY SIMPLE concept instead of gleefully taking it up the wazoo without so much as KY jelly.
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