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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You can't hold our agents accountable for someone committing suicide!
    I have no authority over the actions of BP agents, but they do have superiors. Their superiors can and will.


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm talking more about apprehending illegals that have already crossed the border and how BP agents being forced to retreat from rock throwers hampers them from doing their job. On the shooting people on the other side of the border issue though I will say this. Would you blame a cop in NYC for shooting someone throwing rocks at him as he walked his beat? Same thing really, if these BP agents can't patrol the border without coming under attack and can't defend themselves when they do they may as well stay home.
    WASHINGTON Following a series of disputed shootings, the U.S. Border Patrol issued a new lethal force directive Friday which prohibit agents from shooting at moving vehicles and at rock-throwing assailants except in instances when the threat could be deadly.

    The announcement comes after a highly critical review of dozens of shooting incidents during a two-year period in which some agents allegedly stepped in front of vehicles to justify firing their weapons and also fired on rock throwers across the border into Mexico.
    Border Patrol issues lethal force directive after shootings

    The directive is because of the actions of some BP agents has become a problem. The directive is not a stand down order, it is an order for agents not put themselves in positions where leathal force is used. The directive does not say that leathal force is not to be used in the performance of the job, just not to used unjudiciously.


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    That is not the case.

    A person on the other side of the border is not the concern of a BP agent. The job of a BP agent is to aprehend and return persons who unlawfully enter the US. BP agents job is not to 'stop' illegal border crossing.
    You are quite wrong.

    While the Border Patrol has changed dramatically since its inception in 1924, its primary mission remains unchanged: to detect and prevent the illegal entry of aliens into the United States.
    U.S. Customs and Border Patrol ~ Border Patrol Overview

    And in case you want to quibble on the definition of "prevent"...

    : to stop (something) from happening or existing

    : to make (someone or something) not do something : to stop (someone or something) from doing something
    Merriam-Webster ~ Prevent

    It absolutely IS the job of our border patrol to STOP illegal border crossings. If it takes a bullet to get the job done and get those leeches and law breakers to stop illegally coming into the US then I am all for it.
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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Border Patrol issues lethal force directive after shootings

    The directive is because of the actions of some BP agents has become a problem. The directive is not a stand down order, it is an order for agents not put themselves in positions where leathal force is used. The directive does not say that leathal force is not to be used in the performance of the job, just not to used unjudiciously.
    If you avoid people throwing rocks at you it makes it difficult to arrest them don't you think?

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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you avoid people throwing rocks at you it makes it difficult to arrest them don't you think?
    If people are across the border how would you arrest them? Refer to post #32


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You are quite wrong.



    U.S. Customs and Border Patrol ~ Border Patrol Overview

    And in case you want to quibble on the definition of "prevent"...



    Merriam-Webster ~ Prevent

    It absolutely IS the job of our border patrol to STOP illegal border crossings. If it takes a bullet to get the job done and get those leeches and law breakers to stop illegally coming into the US then I am all for it.
    refer to post #32


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    If people are across the border how would you arrest them?
    Dumb question.

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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You are quite wrong.



    U.S. Customs and Border Patrol ~ Border Patrol Overview

    And in case you want to quibble on the definition of "prevent"...



    Merriam-Webster ~ Prevent

    It absolutely IS the job of our border patrol to STOP illegal border crossings. If it takes a bullet to get the job done and get those leeches and law breakers to stop illegally coming into the US then I am all for it.
    You went to the dictionary for your mission statement of the US Border Patrol? Did the dictionary also describe BP regulations and directives?


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Dumb question.
    Then it matches your statement.


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    Re: Graphic Images Justify Border Patrol's Use of Deadly Force Against Rock Attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The idea of shooting people suspected of crimes, claimed or real is masterstroke of genius.

    In a nation reeling in economic morass for six years, with massive deficits and a crushing debt burden, the efficiency of this absolute cunning.

    More countries should do it, Canada too. We can simply kill the drug mules and arms dealers, illegals you allow to stay and who figure Canada has better free ****..as it is now we have to claim it was a moose
    Get you a couple dozen decent sized rocks and go to almost any police station in the U.S. and start throwing rocks at the police officers there and see what happens to you. I promise you they will not duck and hide until you get through pelting them with rocks.

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