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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Neither party want's what?
    Neither party wants to redistrict without gerrymandering.


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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Rubbish.

    What did the Biblical Jesus do? He hung around people considered to be taboo by the religious establishment, asked his followers to give up everything they had, and then used that to help the poor. Jesus said that it's almost impossible for a rich person to be saved. This loon says that Jesus really meant that god wants the most hardworking and deserving to be rich.

    Guys like these are the money changers that Jesus flipped out on.
    The fact is that redistribution of wealth is a self-serving liberal scheme centered in greed and covetousness for other people's money, rather than exercising personal initiative and responsibility and earning it themselves. The lack of personal initiative and responsibility are hallmarks of the liberal left, which is why they want a government nanny to take care of them.

    Jesus said a man should reap what he sows, not what other people sow. And I stand by the rest of what was in the article.
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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Neither party wants to redistrict without gerrymandering.
    Both parties redistrict for a reason, demographics. It works in some areas, but not all. Both parties redistrict thinking it will give them an edge in elections.

    My experience with redistricting is that now, I have to drive farther to a polling place than I did two years ago. Politicians use redistricting as a tool to inconvenience some voters. Voters who might cast a ballot for an opponent. If the voter cannot get to the redistricted polling place, they might say, the heck with it, it's too far to travel. In some areas, public transportation to the redistricted areas isn't available.

    It could be said that redistricting is a form of gerrymandering, or that gerrymandering is a form of redistricting. Gerrymandering takes place at legislation offices, usually bills submitted to a state's congress. If a majority of the state's congress vote for the gerrymandering bill, such as redistricting, the bill is passed. Other forms of gerrymandering is fraud committed at polling places, voter registrations and so forth, but these are illegal practices.

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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't think anyone thinks that. Liberals actually tend to be a bit wealthier than conservatives. We're generally more educated, which is a pretty good indicator of economic class.

    However, averages can be misleading. The tiny super rich are overwhelmingly conservative, as are their poorer, more fundamentalist religious electorate. That's how we get an average income of about $32,000 in this country, but if all income were divided evenly, it would be around $220,000. Context makes a big difference. Those House districts have wealthier communities, while the super rich tend to live wherever they want, not even with the regular upper class.

    Either way, simply discussing the 10 wealthiest districts is a very small sample size.
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    Don't you also have the least educated voters too?
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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Both parties redistrict for a reason, demographics. It works in some areas, but not all. Both parties redistrict thinking it will give them an edge in elections.

    My experience with redistricting is that now, I have to drive farther to a polling place than I did two years ago. Politicians use redistricting as a tool to inconvenience some voters. Voters who might cast a ballot for an opponent. If the voter cannot get to the redistricted polling place, they might say, the heck with it, it's too far to travel. In some areas, public transportation to the redistricted areas isn't available.

    It could be said that redistricting is a form of gerrymandering, or that gerrymandering is a form of redistricting. Gerrymandering takes place at legislation offices, usually bills submitted to a state's congress. If a majority of the state's congress vote for the gerrymandering bill, such as redistricting, the bill is passed. Other forms of gerrymandering is fraud committed at polling places, voter registrations and so forth, but these are illegal practices.
    I think you should check your definition of "gerrymander." It's all about redistricting. It refers specifically to drawing district boundaries to sway the result one way or the other. Fraud committed at a polling place could only occur after the district has been drawn, and while usually there's some gerrymandering involved in drawing the boundaries, that's long over with before a voter gets to a polling place.


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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    The fact is that redistribution of wealth is a self-serving liberal scheme centered in greed and covetousness for other people's money, rather than exercising personal initiative and responsibility and earning it themselves. The lack of personal initiative and responsibility are hallmarks of the liberal left, which is why they want a government nanny to take care of them.

    Jesus said a man should reap what he sows, not what other people sow. And I stand by the rest of what was in the article.
    Matthew 25: 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

    Keep telling yourself that you're doing the work of Jesus by teaching the poor about personal initiative and responsibility.

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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Matthew 25: 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

    Keep telling yourself that you're doing the work of Jesus by teaching the poor about personal initiative and responsibility.
    Strawman.

    First, it's documented that conservatives give more to charity than do liberals.

    Second, and to address your quote above, never once did Jesus say giving to the poor had to first be filtered through a bloated and inefficient government.
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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Strawman.

    First, it's documented that conservatives give more to charity than do liberals.

    Second, and to address your quote above, never once did Jesus say giving to the poor had to first be filtered through a bloated and inefficient government.
    Strawman? You said that Jesus didn't believe in handouts for the poor. I just quoted Matthew. But I"m sure your line of reasoning will be fine come judgement day.

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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

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    Seriously?
    I was parodying, don't worry

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    Re: Democrats are the party of the rich in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Strawman? You said that Jesus didn't believe in handouts for the poor. I just quoted Matthew. But I"m sure your line of reasoning will be fine come judgement day.
    The Strawman was your thinking that the scripture in question supported the idea that charity to the poor had to first be filtered through a bloated and inefficient government.
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