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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, because I don't feel like giving you classified information. You have no need to know.

    And no, apparently you don't like the system. Sorry! You can move!
    Or we can just get rid of people like you, and while we are at it, cut payment of your pensions. People that take part in abusing people shouldn't get a pension.

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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

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    You don't get it. You're representatives do. The way this country was formed. You don't have to like it, but we won't change it for you. Sorry!
    You don't get it. Unless I know how they are making their decisions and by what evidence and proof, I cannot accurately servo the system and control the representation. I must have the information, I must have the data to make the educated decisions necessary to keep the Republic.

    Those fighting to keep others in ignorance are rarely in the right. History has demonstrated this.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do NEED to know.
    No, you don't. Sorry.
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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, you don't. Sorry.
    Yes, I do. Sorry.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Or we can just get rid of people like you, and while we are at it, cut payment of your pensions. People that take part in abusing people shouldn't get a pension.
    He's just a man protecting his bread, nothing more. He cannot demonstrate any effect, he cannot show any benefit, all he can do is hide the truth in ignorance and claim the ignorance is justified. Those without argument are oft left to deception.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Or we can just get rid of people like you, and while we are at it, cut payment of your pensions. People that take part in abusing people shouldn't get a pension.
    People with master's degrees, fluent in Chinese, combat experience, and a security clearance? No, I'll be pretty comfortable as long as I want, I think. Important to be marketable!
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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You don't get it. Unless I know how they are making their decisions and by what evidence and proof, I cannot accurately servo the system and control the representation. I must have the information, I must have the data to make the educated decisions necessary to keep the Republic.

    Those fighting to keep others in ignorance are rarely in the right. History has demonstrated this.
    That would be absolutely moronic. Share classified information...presumably all the time...just so you feel better? Nah, I think I'll go with the founders here.
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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    People with master's degrees, fluent in Chinese, combat experience, and a security clearance? No, I'll be pretty comfortable as long as I want, I think. Important to be marketable!
    A whole Master's Degree. Oooooooooooo. In what? An MBA? Hahahahahaha
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Regardless of whether one agrees with the electronic intrusion into the personal lives of US citizens and your allies, the thinking really is Orwellian.

    But that seemed lost on Alexander. "I think our nation has drifted into the wrong place," he told the Times. "We need to recognize that those who are working to protect our nation are not the bad people."
    No, only good people go through your garbage.

    That justifies what? The fact the ELECTORATE is pissed makes THEM wrong?

    To suggest the eaves dropping is the sole reason the US has not been attacked since 911 is, frankly, fool's logic. No one has EVER attacked Canada, other than our best friends the United States is proof that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are doing a great job of protecting the country? We've never been invaded by aliens either, so our security service must be top notch!

    Freedom is not being watched by a government. Democracy is NEVER served by secrecy.

    I think we should honor his retirement by following him and his family 24/7 with a video camera. I bet he's seeking legal action to protect HIS privacy within 48 hours.

    Since when does a career general know anything about human rights? They're dictators by nature.
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    Re: Retiring NSA chief doesn't understand why people hate the NSA

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That would be absolutely moronic. Share classified information...presumably all the time...just so you feel better? Nah, I think I'll go with the founders here.
    You are going against the founders. You keep saying "classified information", but this too is a sham. For while there is certainly information to be classified, you use it as a blank check to keep ALL information classified. And that's right out.

    You cannot prove your point, you cannot show the inefficiencies, you cannot demonstrate effect. Just another welfare queen; but unfortunately one with the ability to exercise force against the People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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