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PLUNGE: New poll shows Obamacare support at 26%

Health Savings Accounts cover more things and are far more affordable.

True. How long to you expect them to be a viable option and available to those who would chose them?
 
What the polls never seem to tell is that a big chunk of the people who don't support the ACA don't support it because it is too conservative.
They would rather see a single payer system...medicare for all.
Polls that break the questions down have always demonstrated this fact.
Polls that simply ask a black and white question give false indications making it seem as though two thirds of Americans don't like the ACA because it is too liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The law is a centrist compromise and sits right in the center of American opinion.

More Polls Show GOP Misreads Public on Obamacare - US News

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The nature of Obamacare 'opposition' | MSNBC

MSNBC. :) Let me guess, its a centrist organization as well.

This is a unilateral disaster, and the Obamacare dems will pay for it.
 
Health Savings Accounts cover more things and are far more affordable.

A health savings account is not insurance; covers only $1 of medical expense per $1 saved, and the coverage is capped at the value of the account (likely at $10,000), which does even cover a short hospital stay. In short, the above referenced statement is nonsense.
 
Ridiculous. Let's pick this up when it's actually taken effect and implemented for a year. Conservatives have been calling it a "failure" since it was voted in.

I wouldn't trust putting my personal information into that website. Plus many areas only have one insurance offering. The 7 million signup claim (which I don't believe) is really a joke, because there should be 10's of millions. And that is just uninsured people, and not any others.
 
Your confusion is understandable if you only see the poll results that the cons want you to see. Ask the next question (as this CNN did) and you find out only 35% of the nation oppose the ACA because it is too liberal.
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I knew there was some trick involved in Ed's statement, thanks.
 
I wouldn't trust putting my personal information into that website. Plus many areas only have one insurance offering. The 7 million signup claim (which I don't believe) is really a joke, because there should be 10's of millions. And that is just uninsured people, and not any others.

Half truths and tired talking points aside, what's ridiculous about your logic is that it requires everything to stay exactly as it is now, and must deny any form of fluid progression of improvement (as has been happening). An intelligent person would see how it goes when it's been implemented for over a year and whether kinks continue to be worked out.
 
Ignorance. Your talking point has been covered to death.

No, you have simply overlooked that Obama has lied about keeping your coverage, yet you trust him to keep his word this time. The word gullible comes to mind.
 
Half truths and tired talking points aside, what's ridiculous about your logic is that it requires everything to stay exactly as it is now, and must deny any form of fluid progression of improvement (as has been happening). An intelligent person would see how it goes when it's been implemented for over a year and whether kinks continue to be worked out.

I love the way you promote a ONE solution premise to healthcare insurance. It's Obamacare or the wild west, right? Obamacare is the only possible solution or method possible, right?
 
I love the way you promote a ONE solution premise to healthcare insurance. It's Obamacare or the wild west, right? Obamacare is the only possible solution or method possible, right?

Oh please. Conservatives have displayed no interest in health care reform, let alone any interest in addressing the issues that the PPACA deals with. Whether it's Obamacare or some form of universal or single payer health care, the Left is taking the lead on this one. You guys take on guns and immigrants, we'll handle this.
 
Oh please. Conservatives have displayed no interest in health care reform, let alone any interest in addressing the issues that the PPACA deals with. Whether it's Obamacare or some form of universal or single payer health care, the Left is taking the lead on this one. You guys take on guns and immigrants, we'll handle this.

Yeah, leave liberals in charge of 17% of the economy. :roll:
 
No, you have simply overlooked that Obama has lied about keeping your coverage, yet you trust him to keep his word this time. The word gullible comes to mind.

Yes, the insurance companies, rather than upgrading their policies to be compliant (and therefore not suck ass), decided to cancel them instead thereby making everybody just get new (and compliant) policies. It certainly fits in with the narrative of Obama lying about people being able to keep their coverage, but is ultimately meaningless. Whether or not you think I'm gullible on this matter is not important to me, because this complaint over the PPACA is just empty noise and posturing.
 
Yeah, leave liberals in charge of 17% of the economy. :roll:

Look, over there! Somebody wants to ban an automatic weapon!
 
Yes, the insurance companies, rather than upgrading their policies to be compliant (and therefore not suck ass), decided to cancel them instead thereby making everybody just get new (and compliant) policies. It certainly fits in with the narrative of Obama lying about people being able to keep their coverage, but is ultimately meaningless. Whether or not you think I'm gullible on this matter is not important to me, because this complaint over the PPACA is just empty noise and posturing.

I understand. It wasn't Obama who was lying, it was the mean old insurance companies that are to blame. :roll:
 
I understand. It wasn't Obama who was lying, it was the mean old insurance companies that are to blame. :roll:

In the short run they certainly made an ass out of him. In the long run, however, it's an utterly meaningless thing, since in the end people will have better policies.

So the incident is good for a few yucks, but otherwise it's entirely irrelevant.
 
you cannot blame the voters of navada, california, and new york for choosing who they wanted to represent their state, or not steping up to the plate and challenge the status quo.

That's because they like their corrupt politicians very much.
 
Cons are such cowards. Thank you for proving my point. We have mods here who can keep any cash until such time. So you make excuses. You are a Con after all.

I'll bet they won't.
 
Millions of people have been dropped since Obamacare was enacted.


Anyone care to speculate what happens when all the delayed mandates kick in?

No one will lose their plans then right? The president said so. Just like the thread above this on a new posts search at this time has a thread called "Bad news for conservatives, popularity of Obamacare soars" or some form of that river in Egypt, de Nile.
 
Anyone care to speculate what happens when all the delayed mandates kick in?

No one will lose their plans then right? The president said so. Just like the thread above this on a new posts search at this time has a thread called "Bad news for conservatives, popularity of Obamacare soars" or some form of that river in Egypt, de Nile.

It was the AP poll which had 26% approval/43% disapproval on the 24th. Fox news had one on the 25th, 40% for 56% against. Then ABC released their poll on the 30th with 48% for, 50% against. Since then Quinnipiac published their on the 31st which showed 41% for 55% against. So you had 4 different polls within a week's span, those for the ACA ranged from 26% to 48% and those against from 43% to 56%. That is quite a range. This is why I like to go with RCP's average, they average out 7 different polls and their average today is 40.1% for, 52.0% against.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

The thing here is never get too high or too low over a single poll. Who knows, the polling firm who took the poll may have had a bad day. Skewed polls do happen, this is why RCP and their averaging is what I go by.
 
I understand. It wasn't Obama who was lying, it was the mean old insurance companies that are to blame. :roll:
Well yeah ... it kinda was...Rather than upgrade the coverage deficient policies the insurance companies just shut 'em off.
Most of the people who had their policies canceled by the insurance companies because of minimum coverage non-compliance, quickly found out that they could get much better coverage through the exchanges at the same premium, or when eligible for subsides ...less.
The talking point the " Oh noes Obama lied to us" sounded damaging in January but by November it will mean absolutely nothing.
 
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Well yeah ... it kinda was...Rather than upgrade the coverage deficient policies the insurance companies just shut 'em off.
Most of the people who had their policies canceled by the insurance companies because of minimum coverage non-compliance, quickly found out that they could get much better coverage through the exchanges at the same premium, or when eligible for subsides ...less.
The talking point the " Oh noes Obama lied to us" sounded damaging in January but by November it will mean absolutely nothing.

Nothing will be forgotten this November, nor the one in 2016.

Since you are so eager to pay for Obamacare, I will allow you to pay for mine. I didn't sign up and don't plan to anytime soon. If I get sick, I will simply go to the emergency room and let you pay even more for my services.
 
Nothing will be forgotten this November, nor the one in 2016.

Since you are so eager to pay for Obamacare, I will allow you to pay for mine. I didn't sign up and don't plan to anytime soon. If I get sick, I will simply go to the emergency room and let you pay even more for my services.
You WILL pay the penalty tax every year ...and BTW it goes up each successive year.
You will be paying for yourself Tex.:lamo:lamo
You and your fellow Texans will soon realize how badly Governor Perry screwed your state by blocking the medicaid expansion.
You will soon live in a blue state or wish you did.:lamo:2wave:
 
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You WILL pay the penalty tax every year ...and BTW it goes up each successive year.
You will be paying for yourself Tex.:lamo:lamo
You and your fellow Texans will soon realize how badly Governor Perry screwed your state by blocking the medicaid expansion.
You will soon live in a blue state or wish you did.:lamo:2wave:

There are ways around the penalty, and after the dems lose the senate the aca will be mitigated.
 
You WILL pay the penalty tax every year ...and BTW it goes up each successive year.
You will be paying for yourself Tex.:lamo:lamo
You and your fellow Texans will soon realize how badly Governor Perry screwed your state by blocking the medicaid expansion.
You will soon live in a blue state or wish you did.:lamo:2wave:

My penalty this year is less than one months premium. Next year it will be a little bit more, that is unless it is changed again. The following year I qualify for Medicare. So no, I will not be paying. Like I said, I will let you pay. You seem to like being screwed.
 
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