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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Pero .....you might want to see this. As I think it will help to push some out the door.

    Here Are The "Fixes" Democrats Want for Obamacare

    Writing in today's POLITICO Magazine, Democratic Senators Heidi Heitkamp, Mary Landrie, Mark Begich, Mark Warner, Angus King and Joe Manchin are outlining some of the ways they think Obamacare can be fixed. Notice how many of these Senators represent red states.

    First, we want to give consumers as many choices as possible when it comes to selecting their health plans. By providing a new, lower cost, high deductible option called the Copper Plan (in addition to the existing Platinum, Gold, Silver and Bronze-level options in the marketplace) we will give consumers more control over their own coverage, spur competition and, most importantly, increase affordability.

    We also propose directing state insurance regulators to develop models for their states to sell health insurance across state lines. These multi-state models will help us discern the benefits and challenges of selling health insurance in this manner, and determine if it is a means to increasing choice and competition among plans—potentially driving down costs while maintaining quality and value.

    Second, to ease the transition for employers, we want to expand the option for voluntary coverage for employers with fewer than 100 employees, about 98 percent of all businesses. This will enable small and mid-sized businesses to make their own choices for their businesses, and employees can shop for coverage on the individual marketplace.

    Finally, we simply want to make it easier for individuals and families to access quality health coverage by offering more than one way for individuals to enroll. We seek to provide a permanent path—in addition to HealthCare.gov—for consumers to seamlessly enroll directly through insurers, while improving access for the agents and brokers whom many families and small businesses trust and rely upon for help with these decisions.....snip~

    You can read the entire proposal here.....snip~

    Here Are The "Fixes" Democrats Want for Obamacare - Katie Pavlich

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...signups-8.html
    Yeah, but I doubt if old harry Reid will allow it to come to a vote. Of those you mentioned, Landrieu is in trouble, she will probably finish first in November but not get the 50% required and Cassidy will win the runoff in early December giving the GOP Louisiana's seat. Begich is in better shape in Alaska, although his poll numbers has been falling. Manchin, King, Warner, Heitkamp are not up for re-election this cycle. But all 4 are of the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party with Manchin probably approaching an old time conservative.

    Other incumbents who voted for the ACA in trouble include Hagan from NC, Pryor from Arkansas. Pryor is probably gone and Hagan has a 50-50 shot of hanging one, only because NC is moving towards becoming more blue.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    The problem is that to actually fix Obamacare, you have to take it away from the government. Just watch when the members of congress start spending the premiums they collect on pork just like they did social security taxes.

    They could have passed interstate insurance selling and medical malpractice litigation reform without creating this monstrosity. They could have solved pre existing conditions with a stroke of the gavel.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah, but I doubt if old harry Reid will allow it to come to a vote. Of those you mentioned, Landrieu is in trouble, she will probably finish first in November but not get the 50% required and Cassidy will win the runoff in early December giving the GOP Louisiana's seat. Begich is in better shape in Alaska, although his poll numbers has been falling. Manchin, King, Warner, Heitkamp are not up for re-election this cycle. But all 4 are of the more moderate wing of the Democratic Party with Manchin probably approaching an old time conservative.

    Other incumbents who voted for the ACA in trouble include Hagan from NC, Pryor from Arkansas. Pryor is probably gone and Hagan has a 50-50 shot of hanging one, only because NC is moving towards becoming more blue.
    Jeanne Shaheen is the incumbent Dem here in NH. She also has the dubious distinction of being the one who cast the deciding vote on the ACA. She is already in big trouble and Scott Brown hasn't even said if he's challenging her or not.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You are completely correct. Up until now, the political right has pretty much been standing by and watching the left self-immolate.
    Being a lame duck, Obama has taken that role. If he is the focus of everyone's rage, he can deflect that rage from the party as a whole.

    The average American does not equate Obama's shortcommings with the party as a whole. You are correct that the right does.


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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Being a lame duck, Obama has taken that role. If he is the focus of everyone's rage, he can deflect that rage from the party as a whole.

    The average American does not equate Obama's shortcommings with the party as a whole. You are correct that the right does.
    I agree that having a "D" after one's name is not necessarily a disqualifier, but it's going to be a close call.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I agree that having a "D" after one's name is not necessarily a disqualifier, but it's going to be a close call.
    it always is...isn't it?


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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Being a lame duck, Obama has taken that role. If he is the focus of everyone's rage, he can deflect that rage from the party as a whole.

    The average American does not equate Obama's shortcommings with the party as a whole. You are correct that the right does.
    You could look at the results of the 2006 midterm elections and make the same assumption about the left, if you're being completely honest.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    it always is...isn't it?
    True. It generally takes a while for a pile of crap to become fertilizer, and the people are impatient.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Jeanne Shaheen is the incumbent Dem here in NH. She also has the dubious distinction of being the one who cast the deciding vote on the ACA. She is already in big trouble and Scott Brown hasn't even said if he's challenging her or not.
    I really do not consider New Hampshire as in play, at least at the moment. Take a look at these polls.

    http://americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/senate14/

    Election 2014: New Hampshire Senate - Rasmussen Reports™

    http://bostonherald.com/sites/defaul...-MarchPoll.pdf

    Unless something drastically changes, Shaheen is looking pretty safe.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: AP Poll: Obama Disapproval Rises to 59 Percent, A New High.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You could look at the results of the 2006 midterm elections and make the same assumption about the left, if you're being completely honest.
    I usually don't make comparisons between elections. I believe each election is distinct. I would feel foolish to compare a past election with one yet to happen...So I don't.


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