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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Clearly the US government knows what's better for Haiti than the Haitian government does.
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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Clearly the US government knows what's better for Haiti than the Haitian government does.

    I think it does.....

    “We had learned that supporting long-term prosperity in Haiti meant more than providing aid,” Secretary Clinton told a group of investors at a luncheon following the event, the Associated Press reported.

    “It required investments in infrastructure and the economy that would help the Haitian people achieve their own dreams. So we shifted our assistance to investments to address some of the biggest challenges facing this country: creating jobs and sustainable economic growth.”

    The Caracol Industrial Park is expected to create around 40,000 jobs in an area where subsistence farming and fishing are the only economic options available aside from migrating to more developed parts of the country, though many of those areas in the south were damaged by the 2010 earthquake.

    The capital of Port-au-Prince was hit the hardest by the magnitude 7.0 quake, and more than 350,000 people are still living in tents and temporary shelters on the outskirts of the city. Furthermore, a cholera epidemic claimed over 7,000 lives in the aftermath of that disaster.

    Indeed, the jobs are sorely needed in a country where unemployment was last recorded at more than 40 percent in 2010 and where a vast majority of the people live below the poverty line......
    Low-Wage Factory Jobs In Haiti Not 'Perfect' But A Start For Recovery, Clinton Says

    About Haiti | Haiti Health Ministries

    40% unemployment suggests that Haitians desperately need jobs. With 50% illiteracy rate, they're not going attract businesses that need skilled labor. When the average income is a $100 to $400 a year....a $5 a day job could make all the difference in the world. Now they can afford to send to their kids to school and those kids can grow up to get a better job than their parents.

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If you ask the Haitians what they would prefer...a job that only pays 31 cents an hour....or no job at all....which do you think they would chose?
    This statement, and the situation that is the thread topic, reminds me of the observation of Thomas Aquinas: "If you can live amid injustice without anger, you are immoral".

    That the US government enforces a grossly unjust situation in Haiti is no surprise to me, but disgusting nonetheless. By way of corporate influence, this country has reached a level of fascism.

    Thanks to Wikileaks for yet another sobering insight.

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    What's good for Levi's is good for the world.
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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Look at it this way. If the US minimum wage wasnt so high they would be making Levi's back in the good ol' US of A once again instead of outsourcing it.

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Whose says we arent ran by corporations? This is more proof that corporations dominate our politics not only at home but overseas. Welcome to America [/FONT][/COLOR]
    No doubt you'd regard it as a victory if all those people lost their jobs. Was the US acting for the benefit of the companies or of the Haitian people? Levis et al. can always turn to China or some other poor country.

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Does that somehow justify us pressuring Haiti and other countries from pressuring the Haitian state to keep wages lower?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Without jobs, there is no economic growth. Haiti desperately needs jobs and if it is the choice between low paying jobs or no jobs at all, I think they would prefer the low wage jobs. Almost every emerging country starts out with low paying jobs to attract business. Today many of those same emerging countries economies are now enjoying ecomonic growth that is outpacing the US....so much so they are buying US debt. One could say the US works for them now.
    Which rather neatly (if obviously) sidesteps the actual question: is it right for the U.S. to pressure Haiti into keeping wages lower?

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Why not levy a general tax for unemployment compensation on any Firm which may have operations external to the US?

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If you ask the Haitians what they would prefer...a job that only pays 31 cents an hour....or no job at all....which do you think they would chose?
    That is not the point.

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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    One can only imagine the ****storm that would ensue if the U.N. pressured the U.S. into lowering its minimum wage.

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