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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    I've been to Haiti. Minimum wage means nothing especially when jobs are limited. They lack a police force and court system to adequately enforce those kinds of laws anyway. The Haitian government is also very corrupt and can be bought off by pretty much anyone with the money to do so.

    When I was there we saw a public housing construction site donated for by the UN (I think). The guy said they got plenty of money to build it, but with the money they got they only erected steel beams and didn't get into any of the other work. The government blew it on other stuff and was demanding more money to finish the project. Haiti is lawless with a self serving government. It's quite a sad state of affairs.
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    Re: WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would St

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And so in a libertarian environment thats gonna stop it how?
    Because there are no enablers. Monopolies have trouble forming in a neutral free market when the playing field is purely level.

    PROOF: all known monopolies/oligopolies in existence can be traced to at least one historical instance involving large-scale theft (not acquisition) of capital, such as land, or at least one large-scale, coercive shielding of competition (i. e. tariffs).

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wouldnt it just lead to more monopolies? Hell it was the people who rose up and called for the state to stop these practices (monopolies)...
    The state (as cited) was responsible for creating those monopolies. With zero tariffs and zero land granting (from the theft of land from Natives), there would've been no Standard Oil, no Carnegie Steel.

    It's unlikely that Rockefeller would've built a monopoly if he had to pay rent to the Natives for drilling on their land.

    The modern notion that govt. is integral to acting as a check on monopolies and its abuses is based on an erroneous view of capitalism, one in which there exists a pure free market within a private sector on one side and a govt. separate from that private sector that's accountable solely to the mass consumer base.

    The system that exists today and that existed in the Gilded Age is nothing like that. Rather, it's a perverse farce where large industries lobby the govt. to grant them special favors that shield them from natural market forces in a global economy. Today, such shielding is called corporate welfare, and it proves that the separation between the govt. and the private sector is a myth.

    In effect, the reckless enabling on the part of the US govt. creates the conditions that require it to step into the market; in reality, the govt. never actually steps in to the point of making any difference, since it's ultimate allegiance is to its corporate sponsors. At best, all the govt. does is do its best to creating the illusion that it's needed (i. e. by claiming that it acts as a check on an otherwise unregulated market) in order to justify its continued existence, which is to merely to serve on behalf of the aforementioned corporations.

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