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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I found if you can get them fresh, you can make a little sushi roll and they are mighty tasty. I've also found that a nice Tantrum sauce can really bring out some of the subtle flavors. Perhaps a nice chianti and some fava beans?
    We should totally do an aborted Fetus cook book.

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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    This thread has taken a turn.
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals - Telegraph

    Ten NHS trusts have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish while two others used the bodies in ‘waste-to-energy’ plants which generate power for heat.

    Ah, big government in control of healthcare. Anyone have a problem with this (you know who you are)?
    I guarantee you John's severed leg was in there, too. Nor does this have diddly squat to do with government.

    People apparently find the fact that hospitals have body parts and such that need to be disposed of (and they incinerate it to do so) to be shocking. But it's how things have always been done.

    What do you want? A funeral for everything? I might sound callous - but bodily refuse is bodily refuse. Every hospital produces quite a bit: severed fingers, feet, internal organs that were diseased, placentas, and the uterus (cancerous growths, etc)
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Well, what are they supposed to do with them exactly? What would be "respectful" enough for a first trimester embryo? I mean, I suppose you could try getting them in a nice funeral outfit, but it's kinda hard to tell them apart from the rest of the random clots in the uterus, and even if you could, it'd probably fall apart while you were messing with it. And frankly, I think that is way more morbid than incinerating it.

    I mean, ordinarily what they do is throw it out as biowaste, and then they get hauled off by some dude and who knows what happens after that (sometimes it is burned, I do believe). That's standard. Is that "better"? Is this "worse"? What do you want them to do with it? I mean, what works for you people? The remains have to go SOMEWHERE, don't they? And for sterility's sake, they should probably be disposed of as biowaste. Just like severed body parts have to go somewhere. Most of them don't get a thimble-sized casket, so where do you think they go? Do you think they just get levitated up to heaven?

    Honestly, anyone who believes they were "cremated" is, frankly, a little gullible (you can't cremate something with no solid bones), and the doctors are yellow bellied freaks for telling them that. I've met some cowardly doctors, and the nonsense they will spout to avoid having to say something hard is just beyond belief. Unfortunately, the "cremation" comment isn't even close to the most cowardly thing I've heard of doctors doing. Why they encourage deluded associations in their own patients and how they think this will help is beyond me, but some do.
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I guarantee you John's severed leg was in there, too. Nor does this have diddly squat to do with government.

    People apparently find the fact that hospitals have body parts and such that need to be disposed of (and they incinerate it to do so) to be shocking. But it's how things have always been done.

    What do you want? A funeral for everything? I might sound callous - but bodily refuse is bodily refuse. Every hospital produces quite a bit: severed fingers, feet, internal organs that were diseased, placentas, and the uterus (cancerous growths, etc)
    I think the point is or was, that there's a moral issue at hand. None of the bodily refuse you mentioned save one, ever had a chance to become a functioning human being. I don't know what the laws are in the UK or how common this is. Apparently there's enough of a concern to question the practice. If it was and is common practice and there was never a concern - perhaps it was a manufactured outrage. I do see appendages, diseased organs differently than a fetus.
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think the point is or was, that there's a moral issue at hand. None of the bodily refuse you mentioned save one, ever had a chance to become a functioning human being. I don't know what the laws are in the UK or how common this is. Apparently there's enough of a concern to question the practice. If it was and is common practice and there was never a concern - perhaps it was a manufactured outrage. I do see appendages, diseased organs differently than a fetus.
    So what are they supposed to do with it? The problem seems to be 'with burning it' more than anything. Or is the problem 'burning it - and we use our incinerator to heat the hospital'

    No alternative except maybe 'build a separate furnace just for placentas and other prenatal tissues, including the fetus'

    Anti-abortion efforts need to be addressed otherwise, not attacking the hospital for their procedures.
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    I'm not sure whether "big gov" being involved or not would effect this practice taking place. My issue is that they told the women in a number of cases that the fetus' had been cremated.

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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I'm not sure whether "big gov" being involved or not would effect this practice taking place. My issue is that they told the women in a number of cases that the fetus' had been cremated.
    And it was - in an incinerator with all the other body parts.
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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    My biggest argument is that burning human flesh for energy is incredibly inefficient.
    You're looking at power as the purpose of producing the flesh, but that's not true. The flesh was produced for fun, the energy is just use of byproduct.

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    Re: Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I guarantee you John's severed leg was in there, too. Nor does this have diddly squat to do with government.

    People apparently find the fact that hospitals have body parts and such that need to be disposed of (and they incinerate it to do so) to be shocking. But it's how things have always been done.

    What do you want? A funeral for everything? I might sound callous - but bodily refuse is bodily refuse. Every hospital produces quite a bit: severed fingers, feet, internal organs that were diseased, placentas, and the uterus (cancerous growths, etc)
    Well, when I heard that they were burning them en mass, I though it to be a little grizzly, but I know they have to dispose of them in some way. When I heard they were using them to heat buildings, well that was a bit much.

    I doubt that a woman that has an abortion could give a crap about the remains; after all, they just ended their life. But some of them were miscarriages, and I can say from experience, that baby was loved.
    So yes, I think a little more respect is required.
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