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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Obama's have a house on the Chicago's South Side.

    But after hitting the affirmative action lotto, it seems that the Obama's feel they are better than those who live in Obama's old hood. How many nights since January 20th, 2009 have Barack or Michelle have slept under the roof of their own home ?

    The only President who has a legitimate excuse for not sleeping in their own home when getting away from D.C. were the Clintons. The Clinton's have always lived in government housing or sponged off of friends sleeping on the couch. That's why the there's a Camp David.

    What we have here are the Chicago South Side Hillbillies.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh. And what's your MO when it comes to Obama? I may have missed all of your critical posts about him so you'll have to forgive me.
    There is no bigger defender of the Obama's and Obama's second rate incompetent administration than Kobie.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    There is no bigger defender of the Obama's and Obama's second rate incompetent administration than Kobie.
    Why do you insist on lying about me?

    The only time I "defend" the Obamas is from partisan lies.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    There is no bigger defender of the Obama's and Obama's second rate incompetent administration than Kobie.
    When someone proposes that the worst thing Hitler ever did was kill and eat a unicorn, I am not defending Hitler when I point out that unicorns do not exist.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why do you insist on lying about me?

    The only time I "defend" the Obamas is from partisan lies.
    If some of us believe it to be true, it can't be a lie can it ?

    Select your words carefully.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If some of us believe it to be true, it can't be a lie can it ?

    Select your words carefully.
    No, if it's not true, than it's a lie. I don't care what you "believe to be true." I care about what actually is true.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When someone proposes that the worst thing Hitler ever did was kill and eat a unicorn, I am not defending Hitler when I point out that unicorns do not exist.
    If it were true, it would make Hitler more evil than Stalin.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, if it's not true, than it's a lie. I don't care what you "believe to be true." I care about what actually is true.


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    1. Definition of lying

    >" There is no universally accepted definition of lying to others (Kagan 1998, 113). The OED definition of lying is as follows:

    To lie =df to make a false statement with the intention to deceive.
    There are several problems with this definition. According to it, a person who makes a statement that she believes to be true — a person who makes a truthful statement — with the intention to deceive another person, is lying, if, unbeknownst to her, the statement is false. For example, if A tells B that there is not a board meeting on Thursday, which A believes to be true, with the intention that B believe there is no board meeting this week, which A believes to be false (since A believes there is a board meeting on Wednesday), then A is lying to B, if A is mistaken, and there is a board meeting on Thursday. Also, according to this definition, conspirators who knowingly make untruthful and false statements to each other, without the intention to deceive each other, but with the intention to deceive eavesdroppers, are lying. Both of these cases are controversial, and it is not clear that we should classify either of these cases as lies.

    The most commonly accepted definition of lying that manages to avoid these problems is the following: “I take a lie to be an assertion, the content of which the speaker believes to be false, which is made with the intention to deceive the hearer with respect to that content” (Williams 2002, 96); or, more formally:

    To lie =df to make an assertion that is believed to be false to some audience with the intention to deceive the audience about the content of that assertion..."<

    The Definition of Lying and Deception (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Meowing is notably passive.
    And in China, barking is notably coarse.

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    Re: Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, if it's not true, than it's a lie. I don't care what you "believe to be true." I care about what actually is true.
    The concrete thinking of the left.

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